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post #16 of 26

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post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by Nomad
But seriously, if the sound of the W100 is similar to the W2002, and it could be if you are lucky according to Hirsch, then you should get them.
Actually, the sounds of the "good" W100 and W2002 are not all that similar. The W2002 is a detail oriented headphone. IMO it falls flat when called upon to do strong dynamics (i.e percussion). The drummer always seems to be turned down in the mix. The W100 is not as detailed as the W2002, but the drummer moves back into position, and the overal presentation seems more balanced to me. Since I've got other detail oriented headphones, a "rocking" closed headphone fit the bill for what I wanted. I've since realized that I use the W100 far more than I've used either of the W2002's that I owned.
post #18 of 26
Thread Starter 

Thanks! New Dilema!

Thanks, I think I might consider them now!

I have a pair of Sony MDR-R1700 on there way, what does everyone think!
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by jken89
Thanks, I think I might consider them now!

I have a pair of Sony MDR-R1700 on there way, what does everyone think!
Did you mean MDR-CD1700? If so I have a pair and I think they sound pretty good. Not as detailed as the W100's but they do have a pretty good soundstage. Bass is tight out of the CD1700 although it doesn't have much extension, wish it went a little deeper. An amp isn't required to drive the 1700's but they do sound better with one
post #20 of 26
Just listen to them and let your ears decide.

Where did your father get them, btw? I'd love to know.
post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by NeilPeart
but IMO the A1000 and even A900 are better cans than the W100. I guess I would say that the W100 is all wood and no substance
Gotta firmly disagree with this comment having heard the 500, 900, w1000 and the w100. you get incredibly more extension and details in the high end with the w100 vs the 900. The 500 and 900 were both unlistenable in comparison.

I can see how one might consider the forward soundstage (HINT, angled drivers) unfavorable but this is really a matter of personal preference. The bass cuts off around 60hz IIRC and that too could be unreasonable for some listeners.

These have stuck with me longer than almost any other phone, ety's being the exception. Give them a shot and see if the sound is for you.
post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by Hirsch
There are two distinct W100 sounds I've heard. One is bright, and lacks low end. The other has rich mids, lots of bass, and better dynamics than W2002. I was able to compare my current W100 to a friend's, and this difference was readily apparent. My friend has since bought a new set of W100 drivers from AT, which are breaking in now. According to him, the sound of his W100's is much closer to mine now. I'll see if I can compare them again after the burn-in period.

The "good" W100 is an excellent headphone. The "bad" W100 is not.
This would be me. Yep, there is a difference. The new drivers I received have a little number two on them, while the older ones had a number one on them....I'm not sure if that means a different run of drivers or not.

They are breaking in nicely and I'm quite pleased. One thing I can say is that if you have a new pair, you need patience and lots of it. These cans take awhile to burn-in and they go up and down throughout the process. About 100 hours in I was excstatic at the sound, then about 200 hours in I was disappointed, and now I'm back to happy....they take awhile but are worth it...IMHO. The highs haven't calmed down just yet, but they are getting there.
post #23 of 26
I guess I can chip in here, on the W100 at least.

In stock form they have a pronounced mid-bass. This gives them a warm sound with a lot of punch. There is a classic AT peak in the upper mids to accentuate vocals. I use a digital eq to flatten the midbass mound and get rid of the screech peak, and then they are just lovely! Wonderful detail, dynamics, and deep powerful bass. They are my favorite closed cans for just listening (the DT250-250 are better for portability, durability, and they don't require eq). Oh, I did the phatpad mod to get the drivers off my ears as well. I may have also changed the cable

The W100 do not have the "DADS" system. For me, that is a good thing. I like the AT designs and drivers, but that extra chamber does bad things to the bass. I kept the W100 over the W1000, the A1000, and the A100. I got to hear the W2002, and I didn't care for them in the least. Realize, of course, that personal taste and expectations/requirements are a big factor in all of this.


gerG
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by gerG
...Oh, I did the phatpad mod to get the drivers off my ears as well...
Sounds interesting... Do tell!
post #25 of 26
Um, old link still works:

phatpad

and a pic with the new cable and the foldflat mod:



There is a whole writeup on the cable swap, with pics. A search should turn it up if you are interested. If not I can track it down (burried in my web-pile somewhere).


gerG

edit: oops, just checked. The cable writeup is still shown on the server, but I can't access it. In fact a bunch of old links seem to be broken. What a pisser. Guess I need to do some cleanup.
post #26 of 26
gerG,

Thanks for that! I might have a go if I can find some suitable tubing - there's a dive shop nearby I can try.

Double sided cable entry and flat folding?! Cool! I don't think I've got the bottle to do something like that - I'd be too worried I'd balls it up!
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