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MacDef

Frankly, most of the points you made on legal issues are incorrect. I have a great deal of respect for Jude and HeadFi and I have enough respect for his authority here that regardless of how silly and wrong I think this is, I'm not going to discuss it further in the forum. If you (or anyone else) would like my point of view, please contact me via email or IRC. I don't imagine you do, but don't you guys do want my opinion, but let me state this much for the record--Jude runs HeadFi. Jude pays for HeadFi, Jude works his ass off to make HeadFi work. No matter how silly I think one of his rules are, it's his rule and I'll abide by it because I do respect him. I think the rest of us owe him that much.

Team IRC

Who exactly is Team IRC? By my memory almost everyone in this thread has been on IRC at some point. Are we simply saying "Anyone who disagrees with Jude or MacDef ever is on Team IRC and is anti-HeadFi"? There's no conspiracy, here. There's no coordinated effort. What you have here, like it or not, are several individuals who happen to disagree with some of your opinions and perspectives. Whose right and whose wrong on each side of the issue you guys are babbling on about is complete beside the point that people on both sides are stating "facts" that are completely wrong.

It's also, as I see it, stupid to argue for something that you're not going to change your mind on.

Smoking is legal. People have a right to smoke. I don't let people smoke in my home. Some people would find me an incredibly bad host for this fact but I'd most likely stick to my decision and since I control the financial interest in having my home, it is my decision.

Likewise, if Jude makes a decision for HeadFi, it's his decision whether I agree with it or not.

What I think is silly to the point of ludicrous is that you think there's some kind of conspiracy mounting where we all get together and decide to disagree with you. As immature as some of us may be, it's really immature to not be able to accept that people, individually, may have an opinion different from yours. It's also immature to assume that because that opinion differs from yours that they all lack experience and education. I assure you that is not the case with me.

I guess my point is, if I'm on Team IRC, you're on Team Paranoia.

Re: Team IRC

Can I please be on Team 'I don't want to be on a team'?

Thanks

I hate being labeled... which I guess is your point also Kelly

Re: Re: Team IRC

Duncan, you could, but then you'd be on the same team is me. Go Club NonConformists. Let's all get mohawks so people can recognize us as nonconformists.

A cold front from the North rolls in to Hades as Audio&Me offers up his first intelligent post. Congrats!

Last time I checked, this is a free service.

I think we have no reason to complain until we are willing to:

a) Pay Jude for the equipment and bandwidth used by these forums.

b) Give the moderators a salery for all the time and work they put into the board.


What Jude and the moderators say, goes. Is is that hard to accept that fact?

I was going to post on this issue, but I don't think I could put it any better than kelly. So I'll leave it at that.

Free speech. #1 priority. Unassailable IMO. Whether the fault of Head-fi or of those that threaten Head-fi this anti free speech attitude, especially this acceptance of it.... IT's not right IMO.

What happened to your company Jude is an obvious example of one of the many glaring flaws of our legal system. What we need is a machine, a machine that can weigh a situation based on pure logic from fact. Since the FACT was you had not violated the user agreement. Unless they were reinventing the english language, which lawyers are known to do.

Alright, here's the thing with the IRC room, if you don't support it, it won't blossom to your expectations or needs. In other words, stop by, chat, talk, joke around, mingle! The room can serve as a friendly place for people to talk about anything and get to know one another. There's no silly conspiracy and that free **** thread was done in an extremely sarcastic (read: HUMOR) tone.

Unfortunately, some things are deemed "grey" areas that need to be considered or viewed stringently, thats fine with me. If this occurs, please review the facts before jumping in though.

FWIW: We all know Jude and the mod's work their butts off to keep head-fi running, believe me, we all appreciate it and applaude the work that has been done...no wait, accomplished to this growing community

Re: Re: Team IRC

Then join me on Team FU.

Don't you ever, EVER accuse me of injecting sense in to ANYTHING ever again.

P.S. ai0tron, do me a favor. Print out all the posts you have made on this thread, put them in an envelope and put them in your closet. Ten years from now (hell, FIVE years from now) open up the envelope and read what you wrote all that time ago.

I absolutely guarantee you will regret everything you said.

Put me down for Team Head-Fi

Look, Head-Fi rocks, Jude rocks, and the moderators not only rock, but are necessary.

I've seen forums without moderation. They SUCK.

Free speech is all fine and good, but there are waay too many ******** on the internet for there to be 'carte blanche' free speech.

Oh, and the moderators are *NOT* heavy-handed. No way Jose. Trust me.

Care to point out where I am so incorrect, Kelly? Given your usual posting style, it seems that if I was clearly incorrect on an issue, you'd try to lay it out clearly how and why I was so wrong



You're right, Kelly, that there's no "conspiracy" -- one problem (and it's only one problem; not that the whole concept is bad) that some of us have with the IRC channel is that it has become a self-selecting group of people who, along with discussing many other things, seem to find "common ground" on things they don't like about Head-Fi. That's fine, except that some of you have started acting like total jerks in the forums, especially when you feel "slighted" by a moderator (the oh-so-clever "Free ****" thread is just one example). Haven't you noticed that 90% of the whining about moderation here comes from the IRC regulars?

There's nothing wrong with IRC -- I use it regularly, so I'd be a hypocrite if I said there was something wrong with it. It's actually a lot of fun sometimes. Like gloco said, people should try it out. Make fun of the moderators, criticize Jude, whatever. Just don't bring crap into the forums.


Very well said

macdef and kelly,

here's a thought: how about you two spend some time on "the LOVE thread" and take this private through email and pm.

regards,
carlo.