|Originally posted by ai0tron
Even so, coming here and saying, I DOWNLOAD MUSIC USING KAZAA AND BURN COPIES FOR ALL MY FRIENDS (not true) doesn't implicate head-fi.
No, but saying "here's where to get free music" (if it's copyrighted) or "does anyone want to trade files?" does
|The fact of the matter is, this site cannot be held responsible for the actions of it's members.
You obviously don't know the law, but in addition it appears that you don't even read the news much if you think a web site cannot be held responsible for the content contained therein. The fact that Head-Fi is moderated actually increases
that potential liability.
As I've tried to explain over and over, but you guys either can't understand, or for some strange reason refuse to understand, it doesn't even matter what the law says. What matters is if someone decides that they don't like what is going on on Head-Fi and decides to take Head-Fi to court. Doesn't matter if Head-Fi is completely innocent -- one court case and Head-Fi goes under.
What really pisses me off about this -- and few thing actually piss me off LOL -- is that you guys don't seem to give a damn about Jude, or about Head-Fi itself. You want to whine about "free speech" and "censorship" and the like, as if this is all happening in a vacuum. Threads get edited and/or closed at Head-Fi for two reasons, and two reasons alone:
1) The content is clearly destructive to the community atmosphere here on Head-Fi. One of the great things about Head-Fi is its community. We have relatively few flame wars, people are generally civil, and the discussion is usually quite intelligent and constructive. We want to keep Head-Fi this way, so if a thread is clearing heading down the road to useless flaming, we'll cut it off. However, take a look at how many threads the moderators have actually closed -- the number is VERY small. As someone who has LOTS of experience moderating web forums and mailing lists, I can assure you that if there were no moderation, the "community" feel of Head-Fi, and the high level of discussion here, would cease to exist.
2) The content poses a legal risk to Head-Fi -- including the risk of some overzealous idiot trying to shut the site down whether it is liable for anything or not. As I mentioned above, the fact that Head-Fi is moderated actually increases the potential liability. One of the key factors in these types of legal matters is whether or not the people who run the web site have any control over its content, including any "review" of that content. By virtue of being a moderated forum, Head-Fi has a much
higher level of responsibility for content than a web site that is unmoderated.
Running a useful, civil, and engaging forum involves a balance between "free speech" and "questionable content" -- all things considered, I think the moderation team is doing a pretty damned good job. There is only really one
issue where there is any "controversy" over moderation, and that is this one. This "controversy" is caused by a handful of people who could just as easily go to one of the hundreds of other places where such discussion is "allowed" -- including the much-vaunted IRC channel.
|Do you think Yahoo is held responsible for all the insane ***** that gets said in its chatrooms!!?!?
Yahoo chatrooms are completely
different than a private forum, especially a moderated one. The fact that you use Yahoo as an example equivalent to Head-Fi shows that you really don't understand the legal issues being discussed.
This whole discussion is getting really old. This is one TINY issue that deals with a MINISCULE number of posts on Head-Fi, yet you guys are making such a big deal about it (including the "almost clever, but not quite" "free ****" thread). Grow up guys. It's as simple as this: Head-Fi is not
a place to discuss trading of music (unless it's clearly and completely legal). If you don't like that, tough. Our responsibilities are not to keep the IRC clique happy -- they are to keep Head-Fi healthy and existing.