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post #5956 of 21643
11/25/08 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by Faust2D View Post
They are AT's, Signet TK33 = ATH-8 Signaet was U S market luxury brand. And I guess they reasoned that no one needs bass below 60Hz....
My education has a long way to go . I recognised the cup/harness configuration but hadn't realised that they were the same company.

Who needs 60Hz anyway - you live in Brooklyn, those jackhammers are always pumping and provide all the low bass you ever need

..dB
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post #5957 of 21643
11/25/08 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by dBel84 View Post
My education has a long way to go . I recognised the cup/harness configuration but hadn't realised that they were the same company.

Who needs 60Hz anyway - you live in Brooklyn, those jackhammers are always pumping and provide all the low bass you ever need

..dB
I am trying to keep all of the collectively collected knowledge in this wiki thing. Hopefully whenever someone has a question they will find it a good place to go for the information related to headphones Like Signet info is there. Unfortunately the information seems very difficult to find and systematize in a coherent easy to use way.

My part of Brooklyn is sleepy and quite too sleepy and quite for my liking
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post #5958 of 21643
11/25/08 at 1:42pm
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But that makes it perfect for speakers and headphones. Nothing messes with your ear-brain like the almost-subliminal low-frequency rumble of a big city. Sleepy and quiet is exactly what you want when you're struggling to hear a TK33 strain for that 60Hz.
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post #5959 of 21643
11/25/08 at 2:20pm
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f10/fs...e-pics-384601/

If these go for anywhere near the asking price, I guess it's time to get myself a lathe.
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post #5960 of 21643
11/25/08 at 2:22pm
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But that makes it perfect for speakers and headphones. Nothing messes with your ear-brain like the almost-subliminal low-frequency rumble of a big city. Sleepy and quiet is exactly what you want when you're struggling to hear a TK33 strain for that 60Hz.
Yeah, quite is nice, but sleepy not so nice.

I still don't get why MP5 was perfectly fine with PMB500 box, SRD-6, SRD-7SB, and SRD-7 but is having issues with Signet TK33 box at any sensitivity level. Dared MP-5 is using STI TDA7265 chip power amp in a gainclone like configuration with tube preamp section. With TK33 box it start fine works for few minutes than just cuts out for a second and starts playing for few minutes and than cuts out again for few seconds etc, very strange. Anyone has any ideas?
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post #5961 of 21643
11/25/08 at 2:23pm
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http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f10/fs...e-pics-384601/

If these go for anywhere near the asking price, I guess it's time to get myself a lathe.
Heh. Go for it
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post #5962 of 21643
11/25/08 at 2:25pm
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http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f10/fs...e-pics-384601/

If these go for anywhere near the asking price, I guess it's time to get myself a lathe.
Good woodwork isn't cheap

For that matter, neither is good cable, or genuine leather pads...
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post #5963 of 21643
11/25/08 at 2:55pm
Yikes, Skylab, quit tempting me again!
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post #5964 of 21643
11/25/08 at 3:59pm
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Skylab, before those go out of your life, please tell us again what it was like to own them, paying especial attention to the quality of sound and not forgetting an evaluation of the headstage.


Ludo, have you by any chance access to vacuum-forming equipment? For example, plastic signage?


Dmitriy, I honestly have no idea why your Dared amp can't handle the A-T box.

I've never had any trouble driving any transformer box and did several extended tests with that very box on my Pannersonik digital receiver before sending it off to you, so I'm scratching my head too.

Some amps have very picky and paranoid protection circuits; just ask ericj. This is a chip amp-- what's its rated ability to deal with low impedances? What's the rated bandwidth?

I hope some of the amp mavens will have a clue. Help us, Eric J, you're our only hope! Help us, Eric J, you're... [click]

Have you ever tried any other A-T boxen, eg the ATH-7?

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post #5965 of 21643
11/25/08 at 4:10pm
My only suggestion wrt the Dared MP5 vs. the Signet is that maybe a zobel network will help. But i don't know what values it needs to have.

I might try other crazy stuff, like a series 1-ohm resistor. But i don't really know.

My impression is that it doesn't know what to do about the reactive load it's seeing.
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post #5966 of 21643
11/25/08 at 4:16pm
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Skylab, before those go out of your life, please tell us again what it was like to own them, paying especial attention to the quality of sound and not forgetting an evaluation of the headstage.




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The Donuts sound like no other headphone I own. In a way they are superior to every other headphone I own. And in a way, I like them less than any other high-end headphone I own. Allow me to explain...

The Donuts are definitely headphones for the detail freak. Every single nuance in the music is audible. Image specificity is the best of any headphone I have heard, even though soundstage width and depth are merely very good. Bass depth and definition are also exceptional.

BUT: try as I might, I could never warm to their spectral balance. For me they make a great microscope to LOOK at the music, but not a great conduit to actually relax and enjoy it. They are the anti- JVC DX-1000 in this way. The JVC's are very good technically but not perfect, however, the music flows from them in an incredibly realistic way. The Donuts lay the music in front of you in great detail, but somewhat at the expense of the experience.

I think what makes me a tube amp lover is the same thing that makes me less than in love with the Donuts. Understand, I actually really LIKE them, and there is a way that listening to them is thrilling. But for me the thrill never lasts, and I always prefer the JVC's.

Part of it may simply be this - the JVC DX1000 are the perfect headphone for ME.
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post #5967 of 21643
11/25/08 at 4:34pm
Swt61, I think you overdamped the Donuts
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post #5968 of 21643
11/25/08 at 4:39pm
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Good woodwork isn't cheap

For that matter, neither is good cable, or genuine leather pads...
Jokes aside (mine was not a serious comment after all), I don't dispute their market value. I'm just trying to convince myself that a lathe might not be only another fun way to "waste" huge amounts of time and smaller amounts of money. Even though I know perfectly well that I would probably follow in Smeggy's footsteps...

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Originally Posted by wualta View Post
Ludo, have you by any chance access to vacuum-forming equipment? For example, plastic signage?
Nope. I don't have access to any equipment that is not mine, and I only have an ancient drill, a 5 euro solder iron, and the usual assortment of screwdrivers etc.
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post #5969 of 21643
11/25/08 at 4:44pm
Can't argue with that, skylab. I have 'stats, K1000s, electrets, all very good quality and outstanding in their own ways but I still gravitate to my more mellow sounding phones a lot of the time because the music tends to flow better for a long day and they don't jump out at you. I'm still very picky about my personal flavor of mellow but I fully understand where you're coming from.
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post #5970 of 21643
11/25/08 at 4:45pm
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Jokes aside (mine was not a serious comment after all), I don't dispute their market value. I'm just trying to convince myself that a lathe might not be only another fun way to "waste" huge amounts of time and smaller amounts of money. Even though I know perfectly well that I would probably follow in Smeggy's footsteps...
Right, I understand. I truly wish that I was good at woodworking - the fun I could have, and the money I would save...

I'm not really sure what the "right" price for the Donuts is, but I like them so much that I won't sell them for less, so if they do not sell for my asking price I will just keep them.
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