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post #2746 of 19952
6/1/08 at 12:23am
everyone who sent me money: your drivers are felt where applicable are sorted and packed, but i was mistaken as to the post office hours on saturday, and showed up 15 minutes too late to ship everything out.

sorry 'bout that. will ship monday.
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post #2747 of 19952
6/1/08 at 3:10am
Thread Starter 

back to the YH-1000 for a moment

Tomek W. sent me these photos of the inside of his YH-1000. He says he's having trouble accessing his HF account, so I'm hosting his photos. Here's what he says about them:

The pictures that I'm sending to you show the interior of yamaha yh1000
earcup-the damping layers(3 of them and every [one] of those has different
density).

take care
Tom


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post #2748 of 19952
6/2/08 at 10:57am
Well I just won these. They seem to be highly regarded as a T50v2 clone, but I find no evidence that anyone here has actually heard one. Then there's the ominous "elektret" thing on the box, maybe it's not an ortho at all, or it's some crazy hybrid. I will do my best to document it when it arrives, these Fostex suckers just fall apart when you open the baffle right?

I won't be listening to it until I've had some time with the modded yh-1, so as not to spoil the surprise
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post #2749 of 19952
6/2/08 at 11:12am
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Well I just won these. They seem to be highly regarded as a T50v2 clone, but I find no evidence that anyone here has actually heard one. Then there's the ominous "elektret" thing on the box, maybe it's not an ortho at all, or it's some crazy hybrid. I will do my best to document it when it arrives, these Fostex suckers just fall apart when you open the baffle right?

I won't be listening to it until I've had some time with the modded yh-1, so as not to spoil the surprise
I owned the NAD Model 16 dynamics and they were every single kind of awful. Hopefully these ones will be better. The Model 20 was an electrostatic.
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post #2750 of 19952
6/2/08 at 12:02pm
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Well I just won these. They seem to be highly regarded as a T50v2 clone, but I find no evidence that anyone here has actually heard one. Then there's the ominous "elektret" thing on the box, maybe it's not an ortho at all, or it's some crazy hybrid. I will do my best to document it when it arrives, these Fostex suckers just fall apart when you open the baffle right?

I won't be listening to it until I've had some time with the modded yh-1, so as not to spoil the surprise
That's a T-50 mk2 OEM as can be seen in the instructions manual that was included. No doubt about it...
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post #2751 of 19952
6/2/08 at 12:05pm
Whew, I don't feel silly for spending so much for them now.
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post #2752 of 19952
6/2/08 at 12:17pm
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Yes, don't let the cries of the duggehman spook you-- it's a T50v2, with all likelihood of sounding like ericj's Maior RP-50, which I still have and which I look balefully at from time to time as I rack my brains for some way to improve it without major mechanical modifications.

But don't let that scare you either. The NAD looks like a T50 inside and out but has a nonflat (but smooth) response curve. It's not a bad headphone, not at all, but it's just not an original T50. It has an elevated (aka "shelved") mid/treble response, which will sound just ducky with some recordings. If you've never heard the Mk 1 T50, you'll almost certainly love the NAD.

If you don't, you'll find a ready market for it here on HF.

Hope the bank transfer doesn't ouch too much.
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post #2753 of 19952
6/2/08 at 12:20pm
Bank transfer, bah. I begged and pleaded until he accepted paypal He only published my question where he said he wouldn't take paypal too, the perfect storm.

How elevated are we talking here, is it a bright headphone?
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post #2754 of 19952
6/2/08 at 12:29pm
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Keep in mind that everything has meaning only in context, so yes, by comparison with a flat headphone, the NAD is bright. This doesn't mean bad or unpleasant or awful, since the response curve is smooth, which covers a multitude of sins, trust me, but it does mean that you'll either perceive bass to be suppressed or the treble to be elevated. However, if you have nothing to compare them against and your ears haven't been trained over years and years, this won't be seen as a problem and they'll be clear and punchy and at worst you'll feel a subliminal urge to crank the bass a little. All the normal iso/ortho virtues will be fully present. Only old dogs like yours truly will take them off and tilt their heads and look at the NAD with an annoyed expression.


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post #2755 of 19952
6/2/08 at 12:58pm
I was actually concerned the NAD would make my 'HA redundant. It sounds like it will be more of a compliment, which is ideal I think.

Are you a studio guy or something you seem suspiciously fond of a flat frequency response . Why don't you suggest modding of the RP18 given its perceived inadequacies? Are it's problems tied to it's housing? Where do the impressions on the the RP18 come from anyway, do we know for certain its a mirror of the Maior?

Modded YH-1 and a poor man's T50 in short order, I can't wait!
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post #2756 of 19952
6/2/08 at 1:08pm
AFAIK, the BG drivers are a lot like the Carver Amazing drivers. In that case, I would expect the BG Neo3 to look a lot like the Fostex T50 driver based on the pictures Wualta has posted here. That is to say, thick traces glued to Kapton, connected on an edge (not in the center).

If these suppositions hold true, does that imply promise for the use of the Neo3 in a configuration sealed to the ear, vented (dampened?) in the rear?

(Sorry if this has been covered before, I think I've only gotten to page 19 or so on this thread!)

Thanks,

-john
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post #2757 of 19952
6/2/08 at 1:52pm
*Spooky Cries*

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post #2758 of 19952
6/2/08 at 4:52pm
Very nice find GuyMe. That seems to be one of the more desirable finds to accidentally make
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post #2759 of 19952
6/2/08 at 5:09pm
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The NAD and the Ya will complement one another. They may even compliment one another, but if you tell anyone, people will think you're off yer nut.

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Are you a studio guy or something you seem suspiciously fond of a flat frequency response . Why don't you suggest modding of the RP18 given its perceived inadequacies? Are it's problems tied to it's housing? Where do the impressions on the the RP18 come from anyway, do we know for certain its a mirror of the Maior?
You're close. Suspiciously fond old classical-music-radio guy.
And you're right, we really don't know for sure that the NAD and Maior are twins, but given the sound of the Fostex-built Sansui SS-100 from about the same time, it's a very good guess.

The housings of the NAD/Maior and T50 are identical, so it's diaphragm tension/mass/gawdknowswhat. I confess, I was shocked that Fostex made the change, but then the original T50 didn't sell that well.

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AFAIK, the BG drivers are a lot like the Carver Amazing drivers. In that case, I would expect the BG Neo3 to look a lot like the Fostex T50 driver based on the pictures Wualta has posted here. That is to say, thick traces glued to Kapton, connected on an edge (not in the center).
It's probably similar enough that if you have the money, and could use it as a tweeter in a project if it doesn't work out as a headphone, I'd say buy it.


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*Spooky Cries*
A great name for an album by Spooky Tooth.
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post #2760 of 19952
6/2/08 at 6:11pm
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The NAD and the Ya will complement one another. They may even compliment one another, but if you tell anyone, people will think you're off yer nut.
Woops
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