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Originally Posted by dukeskd View Post


They also look like the apparatus my ENT doctor would use to examine my ear canal ph34r.gif

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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

They are a bit odd, but I personally adore the looks. Very industrial-looking and interesting.

 

Unfortunately, good looks aren't enough for me to drop $400+ on it... and thats almost certainly going to be more like $700.

I also love the way they look. But it's not a universal opinion, there's definitely a lot of people that find it the most bizarre looking thing ever. Maybe more so than not...

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How do those compare to the yh-1 in sound?

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Originally Posted by JamesHuntington View Post

How do those compare to the yh-1 in sound?

All I know is that they're disappointingly "meh". You'd have to ask an owner like KANA for a more descriptive answer...

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Are the old orthos better than the new? That was my impression, but I took the plunge and am going the other way. I was very happy with my un-modded yh-100s. Even though I put very few hours on them, I could tell that they are special.

 

And, can anyone give their opinion of the general difference between an unmodded YH-100 and a HiFiMan HE-5LE? I sold my YH-100 that I had for 2 years and am currently being shipped the hifiman.

 

Should I be bummed that I sold the YH-100 and then spent the hundreds more on the hifiman? My main reason to sell them was that if I broke them that they could not be fixed. Plus, hopefully the buyer will mod them and get their full potential, as i had not. Anyway, they grew on me like a pet and were very hard to let go.

Sorry for the long and funny question, there just isn't a lot on the internet about old orthos. If I have any impressions I'll post them.

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well, the new ones are bulky and heavy for sure....some call the LCD2 clampy as a torture instrument and utterly dark sounding(this latter problem would have been partially fixed with every new rev), the Hifiman's shrill sounding as it gets(its designer never heard a yamie ortho BTW, duh) and both of their QA seem rather poor: http://www.head-fi.org/t/596217/i-am-going-nuts-i-received-audeze-lcd-2-yesterday-cracked-today/135#post_8309897

 

they would also miss the yamie magical mids from what many ppl are saying, so that's a lot against them if you were to ask me ^^


Edited by leeperry - 5/15/13 at 1:08pm
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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

well, the new ones are bulky and heavy for sure....some call the LCD2 clampy as a torture instrument and utterly dark sounding(this latter problem would have been partially fixed with every new rev), the Hifiman's shrill sounding as it gets(its designer never heard a yamie ortho BTW, duh) and both of their QA seems rather poor: http://www.head-fi.org/t/596217/i-am-going-nuts-i-received-audeze-lcd-2-yesterday-cracked-today/135#post_8309897

 

they would also miss the yamie magical mids from what many ppl are saying, so that's a lot against them if you were to ask me ^^

 

Yeah, but the Yama's won't get you a seat at the table with the "in" crowd.biggrin.gif

 

 

God but I wish Yamaha would reintroduce a 200 dollar ortho. Probably stand the industry still while reviewers figured out how to write it up without losing all their sponsorswink.gif

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Originally Posted by JamesHuntington View Post

Should I be bummed that I sold the YH-100 and then spent the hundreds more on the hifiman? 

 

yes , it is easily one of the best vintage orthos ( not what you wanted to hear ) ..dB

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Originally Posted by dBel84 View Post

 

yes , it is easily one of the best vintage orthos ( not what you wanted to hear ) ..dB

Luckly I got a good price for them. Probably the higher end of the range. I know they are rare. I sometimes see people on HEADFI saying they may pick up a pair. I always think WHERE YOU GONNA PICK THEM UP!??? I never see them for sale.

 

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Yeah, but the Yama's won't get you a seat at the table with the "in" crowd.biggrin.gif

 

 

God but I wish Yamaha would reintroduce a 200 dollar ortho. Probably stand the industry still while reviewers figured out how to write it up without losing all their sponsorswink.gif

 

But some people would say it's not as good as the old ones...

I would pay 500- for some new modded yh100 that were guaranteed against breakage with normal use. Maybe now that I'm wishing then maybe get me some decent electrostats for 500. But until then I know if I don't like the HIFIman, I can resale them. But wouldn't it blow your mind if Yamaha made a new yh-200 or YH-2000 ortho. How much would that cost: 600-900?

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Originally Posted by JamesHuntington View Post

Luckly I got a good price for them. Probably the higher end of the range. I know they are rare. I sometimes see people on HEADFI saying they may pick up a pair. I always think WHERE YOU GONNA PICK THEM UP!??? I never see them for sale.

 

 

But some people would say it's not as good as the old ones...

I would pay 500- for some new modded yh100 that were guaranteed against breakage with normal use. Maybe now that I'm wishing then maybe get me some decent electrostats for 500. But until then I know if I don't like the HIFIman, I can resale them. But wouldn't it blow your mind if Yamaha made a new yh-200 or YH-2000 ortho. How much would that cost: 600-900?


You could more than likely do a yh transplant in to a modern headphone and come out below that budget. There are always phones with blown drivers for grabs on thievesBay.

 

I wonder what a new Yama ortho would cost them to build (given Fostex can do it for under a hundred bucks). The issue I suspect would be the need to price it into the Hifiman bracket for presumed credibility.

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Orthos are a tiny niche market when Yamie are currently selling beats knock-offs(and even get sued) made of cheap dynamic drivers(prolly in China for a few bucks).......the reason why neo-orthos come with poor QA is because the equipment to industrially build those drivers costs a fortune so at this point they all sell semi-DIY. The same reason AKG gave up on the k1k when the machines broke. Making the drivers is not the cost killer, ROI on the equipment to make them very much is.

 

http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=speakers&m=13128

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I want to buy a new pair, but was told by Yamaha engineers themselves, it would cost 50 grand to build one new pair.

 

You guys are so old fashioned when +99% of headphones users want easy-to-drive beats knock-offs in order to listen to lossy autotuned goodness off their smartphone, live with your time or something tongue.gif

post #21596 of 23423
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Originally Posted by JamesHuntington View Post

...I sold my YH-100 that I had for 2 years...

Aha, so that was your YH-100 I saw on eBay. Almost went for that one myself.

post #21597 of 23423
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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

Orthos are a tiny niche market when Yamie are currently selling beats knock-offs(and even get sued) made of cheap dynamic drivers(prolly in China for a few bucks).......the reason why neo-orthos come with poor QA is because the equipment to industrially build those drivers costs a fortune so at this point they all sell semi-DIY. The same reason AKG gave up on the k1k when the machines broke. Making the drivers is not the cost killer, ROI on the equipment to make them very much is.

 

http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=speakers&m=13128

 

You guys are so old fashioned when +99% of headphones users want easy-to-drive beats knock-offs in order to listen to lossy autotuned goodness off their smartphone, live with your time or something tongue.gif


Got to get back on tho the asylum some time..

 

50 grand for one, sure then amortize it over a production run of 100.000 or so:)

 

Get with the times. Hey man I still have minidisk players here!

 

Smartphones are not all bad.

 

Lossy Autotuned tracks cover the current generation of no talents who would sound like ostriches being castrated by and alligator without it.

 

If this board of fanboys were to be believed, the true path to audiophile righteousness is via 1300 bucks worth of Astel Kearns Dap nonesense.

 

Thank god I'm a music lover and not an audiophilebiggrin.gif

post #21598 of 23423
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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post

Aha, so that was your YH-100 I saw on eBay. Almost went for that one myself.

Well I didn't know they would go so well. I had sold them before for 100-, but I didn't know It was going outside the US to Japan on a freight ship, so I pulled out thinking they might not make it and because I said only US sales. It was some company that bids on items for people outside US and then charges them fees. And if it doesn't make it they get to send it back and you have to pay them back because eBay usually sides with them. The guy that won them this time seems legit.  

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Forgot to say, but I started them last time for 100 and only one bidder. I'm very happy I got more than that this time.

post #21600 of 23423
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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

Orthos are a tiny niche market when Yamie are currently selling beats knock-offs(and even get sued) made of cheap dynamic drivers(prolly in China for a few bucks).......the reason why neo-orthos come with poor QA is because the equipment to industrially build those drivers costs a fortune so at this point they all sell semi-DIY. The same reason AKG gave up on the k1k when the machines broke. Making the drivers is not the cost killer, ROI on the equipment to make them very much is.

 

http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=speakers&m=13128

 

You guys are so old fashioned when +99% of headphones users want easy-to-drive beats knock-offs in order to listen to lossy autotuned goodness off their smartphone, live with your time or something tongue.gif


And this is why ortho companies like Audeze or Hifiman keep getting driver failures. It is at a semi-diy level, and I doubt most of their output will last as much as the Yamaha has for the past 30-40 years.

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