Orthodynamic Roundup - Page 1413

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Originally Posted by vid 

 

 

Here.

 

http://personal.inet.fi/muoti/eimuoti/hz/1k_hz.wav

http://personal.inet.fi/muoti/eimuoti/hz/50_hz.wav

http://personal.inet.fi/muoti/eimuoti/hz/40_hz.wav

http://personal.inet.fi/muoti/eimuoti/hz/30_hz.wav

 

The idea being to compare at which point (50, 40, or 30 Hz) the response seems to start drooping in volume compared to the volume at 1 kHz.

I'm teleworking today so I check it tomorrow.  It's pretty rare with any headphone to here 30Hz without turning up the volume.  I tend to listen at low levels.

Thanks. You should notice the bass extension tapering off regardless of what volume you play them at.

Doing a listening comparison of the Unipolar and HP-50S now - as far as bass goes (in reference to the above), both phones do 50 and 40 Hz relatively close to the 1 kHz level, though the Unipolar more so, and only the Unipolar manages 30 Hz audibly when the overall volume is set to comfortable at 1 kHz.

Unfortunately, I was snowed under at work today and didn't get a change.  It'll have to wait until Monday.

Whenever, man or madam. It's not so much for me, just a contribution of knowledge to the general population.

HOK open-backed, not forgetting duct tape.

The headband is that of a Pioneer SE-90D (a bit rare).

http://20cheaddatebase.web.fc2.com/pioneer/SE-90D.html has a picture of the headband's cup fork – it happens to be the sort of shape to hug the HOK's baffle just right on the backside. Not the most durable attachment there with the tape, but it doesn't seem to wobble too much anyway. Not sure how I'd attach the pads.

The sound needs +10 dB of EQ in the bass (that's HOK #1 for you), but apart from that, it's pretty decent with the pads just pressing against the baffle. A wide, relatively natural soundstage, though not very deep. I'll do some measurements later to see if anything improved over stock or whether everything got worse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid 

Doing a listening comparison of the Unipolar and HP-50S now - as far as bass goes (in reference to the above), both phones do 50 and 40 Hz relatively close to the 1 kHz level, though the Unipolar more so, and only the Unipolar manages 30 Hz audibly when the overall volume is set to comfortable at 1 kHz.

there seem to be wide variations in the HP50 series: my HP50A bring the 30Hz with ease.

Yeah, mine are a bit shy in the bass. Purrin measured a pair of HP-50S that seemed to be pulling some crazy extension as well

I have a pair of HP50S that have huge bass. Undamped they were actually overwhelmingly dark, took a lot of work to get them balanced.

No big difference there. Cup or no cup, the HOK can't be bothered.

Put the HOK drivers back into their cups. Stuffed the cups chock full of cotton, then added two discs of wool to the back of the driver just to increase the amount of stuff in the cup. They barely stay closed. Blu-tacked the rim of the baffle shut.

Not a big change overall compared to no cup at all, but the decay in the mids now measures very clean.

Also, as the plot kinda shows, the response starts going downhill below 1 kHz – the bass extension is literally over before it began.

The curious bit is that the soundstage is still decent. I don't have the back disc in, so in essence the cups are open, but there's a wall of cotton there.

Playing around with the HE-6, a bit of twaron angel hair in front of the driver made a huge difference, moreso than anything behind the driver. Makes sense in retrospect, but sometimes it's easy to get caught up in thinking about how to stuff the cups (heh) that we forget about the front end.

Now there's a novel idea.

No issues with it expanding into the diaphragm itself? I never bothered to remember how it's all set up in there from the pictures I've seen. 

Nope, the front is protected by a grill and magnet assembly, though I do still have that nylon dust cover in front and a piece of felt (the twaron is sandwiched in between). I also regrilled the backside with something much more open, and took out the stock foam as well. The result is far less reflections/ringing. That combined with the angel hair in front and the J$ pads and the HE-6 is almost dark sounding in comparison now. It still has that delicious clarity and sharpness, but that upper edge is gone. Taking out the angel hair would give it a bit more bite, but that's into preferences again.