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post #11746 of 19952
9/12/09 at 1:44am
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Originally Posted by wualta View Post
As I never seem to tire of repeating, you can easily tune it to have better, tighter bass than the vaunted Fostex T50v1. Once modded it really does make a nice pro audio type 'phone, with a slightly elevated (but not rising) treble.
And yet I still never seem tire of wanting a T50v1. I'm going to be getting an SR-X MkIII, finally, which I know you think good orthos properly modded can sound like, except with better/more bass than the SR-X. I shall see how it compares to my two trusty Fostexen before I most likely end up shipping them away for an indefinite amount of time.
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post #11747 of 19952
9/12/09 at 3:41am
I am no longer wanting and have been privileged to have been able to spend time with both Fostex and Yamaha flagships. This has afforded me the insight that the other orthos that we love have much in common with these mystiques and although they lack some of the headstage, they do many things right.

I have come to really appreciate the orthos I own ..dB
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post #11748 of 19952
9/12/09 at 12:40pm
I'm glad you think that way. Now that there is a future for orthos, I eagerly await the second generation new orthos to provide us not only with some great ortho sound, but with headstage and better sensitivity. The fact that I will be able to buy new and not have to deal with intermittent connections or broken this or that is definitely another bonus.
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post #11749 of 19952
9/12/09 at 1:06pm
Yes the lcd1 has great sound, it is not as well balanced as the T50v1 but has the extension that the T50 lacks while maintaining an expansive headstage. I am pleased too that Sankar / Audeze has been as tolerant with our criticisms and continued to market a superb product.

I am curious to hear the HeadDirect planar headphones too. ( only due out in October - link has no planar info )

Do let us know about the SRXmkIII - they nearly cost me my YH100 ..dB
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post #11750 of 19952
9/12/09 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by dBel84 View Post
Yes the lcd1 has great sound, it is not as well balanced as the T50v1 but has the extension that the T50 lacks while maintaining an expansive headstage. I am pleased too that Sankar / Audeze has been as tolerant with our criticisms and continued to market a superb product.

I am curious to hear the HeadDirect planar headphones too. ( only due out in October - link has no planar info )

Do let us know about the SRXmkIII - they nearly cost me my YH100 ..dB
Head Direct's were set for 9/15 release. Did they delay the launch?
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post #11751 of 19952
9/12/09 at 1:56pm
must have - the last murmur i heard was sometime in October ..dB
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post #11752 of 19952
9/12/09 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by dBel84 View Post
Yes the lcd1 has great sound, it is not as well balanced as the T50v1 but has the extension that the T50 lacks while maintaining an expansive headstage. I am pleased too that Sankar / Audeze has been as tolerant with our criticisms and continued to market a superb product.

I am curious to hear the HeadDirect planar headphones too. ( only due out in October - link has no planar info )

Do let us know about the SRXmkIII - they nearly cost me my YH100 ..dB
Thanks for the impressions on the LCD1. I believe balance can be shifted using various ortho mod tricks, especially if sacrificing extension is a means of doing so. Can't wait for the Head-Direct orthos, but $800 is a bit much.

Sure thing. The YH100 stock (not with an open back like you made yours) is pretty much the opposite of what I would think the SR-X sounds like. I don't think much of Yamahas, as you probably know by now, and the YH100 is just incredibly closed sounding to me, with quite muddy and bloated bass stock and bad treble extension. Many complain the about the SR-X being a bit bass light but uncolored from the midrange up, except for a slight (sloped?) top end roll-off. So if you prefer the YH100 sound, you probably wouldn't have liked the SR-X anyway.

Edit: I don't know how much making the back open changed the sound, but I'm betting a significant amount, since the YH100 was just too damn closed sounding for me stock. I would have attempted the same thing had I also had a YH100.
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post #11753 of 19952
9/12/09 at 9:28pm

Frankenphones

Well... Just this:



I put my YH-3 drivers in a pair of HD485's....
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post #11754 of 19952
9/12/09 at 9:57pm
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Originally Posted by barleyguy View Post
Well... Just this:
[Borat]Very nice[/Borat]
LL
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post #11755 of 19952
9/12/09 at 10:37pm
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Originally Posted by mypasswordis View Post
[Borat]Very nice[/Borat]
Awesome. Those look like the perfect phones for picking up chicks.
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post #11756 of 19952
9/12/09 at 10:46pm
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Awesome. Those look like the perfect phones for picking up chicks.
My thoughts exactly. In fact, I'm getting the T Amp ready for some portable chick picking up action. Might go clubbing with the rig.

So, how does your ortho'd HD485 sound?
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post #11757 of 19952
9/12/09 at 11:02pm
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MPI, is that a young you in the Float Foto? ....Any chicks?

Yeah, chicks dig T-amps. They're [shudders] "cute".


BGuy, let us know what happens to the '495 with the YH-3 drivers lost in there. I hope the YH-3 was/is a bass-heavy one.


dBel84, I'm surprised to hear you say the LCD-1 isn't as well-balanced as the T50, much as I admire the T50. Is it by any chance the velour-leak bass of the LCD-1 (which should respond to some simple mods), or is it something else?


Back to MPI-- your description of the SR-X Mk3 tells me you won't be surprised when you get it, and thus you won't be disappointed either. I've never thought the 3 had a treble rolloff, but your hearing is undoubtedly better than mine, so let us know about that.


Has anyone from Audeze revealed their marketing plans for future orthos? I can imagine that they watched to see how fast the LCD-1 sold out to gauge whether carrying on with the project made good business sense. I have the nagging feeling that the New Ortho will have to be sexy (read: thin, low-profile, like the SS-100, to proclaim that a unique driver's inside) and cheap (like the Pro 30-- okay, maybe not quite that cheap) if a company wants to see big sales numbers. Wood's pretty, but the right plastic would be more rugged and require thinner sections and be easier to shape. Maybe woodgrain Formica or Corian...

Hmm.. If they could get one of the factories now cranking out iso tweeters to set up a separate line installing low-tension, high-turns-number diaphragms...

Well, anyway, speaking of the woodified high end, has Head-Direct made even a peep since the Big Meet?
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post #11758 of 19952
9/13/09 at 12:34am
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Originally Posted by wualta View Post
MPI, is that a young you in the Float Foto? ....Any chicks?

Yeah, chicks dig T-amps. They're [shudders] "cute".


BGuy, let us know what happens to the '495 with the YH-3 drivers lost in there. I hope the YH-3 was/is a bass-heavy one.


dBel84, I'm surprised to hear you say the LCD-1 isn't as well-balanced as the T50, much as I admire the T50. Is it by any chance the velour-leak bass of the LCD-1 (which should respond to some simple mods), or is it something else?


Back to MPI-- your description of the SR-X Mk3 tells me you won't be surprised when you get it, and thus you won't be disappointed either. I've never thought the 3 had a treble rolloff, but your hearing is undoubtedly better than mine, so let us know about that.


Has anyone from Audeze revealed their marketing plans for future orthos? I can imagine that they watched to see how fast the LCD-1 sold out to gauge whether carrying on with the project made good business sense. I have the nagging feeling that the New Ortho will have to be sexy (read: thin, low-profile, like the SS-100, to proclaim that a unique driver's inside) and cheap (like the Pro 30-- okay, maybe not quite that cheap) if a company wants to see big sales numbers. Wood's pretty, but the right plastic would be more rugged and require thinner sections and be easier to shape. Maybe woodgrain Formica or Corian...

Hmm.. If they could get one of the factories now cranking out iso tweeters to set up a separate line installing low-tension, high-turns-number diaphragms...

Well, anyway, speaking of the woodified high end, has Head-Direct made even a peep since the Big Meet?
peep.
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post #11759 of 19952
9/13/09 at 12:52am
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Originally Posted by wualta View Post
dBel84, I'm surprised to hear you say the LCD-1 isn't as well-balanced as the T50, much as I admire the T50. Is it by any chance the velour-leak bass of the LCD-1 (which should respond to some simple mods), or is it something else?
The lcd1 that I spent time with was less damped than the final version being shipped. I tried to do compare the T50 to the lcd1 that was at the meet but the right driver of the lcd1 had a bit of a rattle which mucked up any direct comparisons. I initially thought the T50 could do with a little damping but I think it is pretty well balanced, just rolls off fairly quickly on the top which gives the impression of more forward mids ..dB
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post #11760 of 19952
9/13/09 at 1:36am
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Originally Posted by mypasswordis View Post
My thoughts exactly. In fact, I'm getting the T Amp ready for some portable chick picking up action. Might go clubbing with the rig.

So, how does your ortho'd HD485 sound?
I just spent the last 3 hours testing it. Overall, it's excellent. The bottom octave or two (80 hz and below probably) seems a little recessed (4 dB?), but it's all there. The rest of the spectrum is darn near perfect. And the soundstage is great. I was listening to "Subterranean Homesick Alien" by Radiohead, and the sound was about two feet to each side of my ears.

I might play with the damping some more, but it's so close now I hesitate to take them apart again. 485's are a pain to put together; there are three screws that have to be lined up at the same time (without being able to look). Though in the last couple of days of multiple assemblies I've gotten better at it.

I learned a couple of things in the process. One is that ortho drivers need to be floating in the enclosure. If you tack them down solid the whole bottom end goes away. So I had to use a ring of blue tak that surrounds the driver but doesn't stick to it, and then use soft damping to hold it in place from the top (i.e. back). I also had to add the polyfill to get rid of a reverby sound, though I'm now using less than what's in the picture.

So my initial impressions are positive. Better soundstage and less reflections than the stock YH-3's. And the "real" sound that ortho drivers give.
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