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post #4066 of 4542
 
I had some time to let the new DAC burn-in and the "new toy" effect has worn off on the SRH1540.  I also had a lot more time to spend with each can and I sold the DT880s and the D2000s.
 
Overall ranking

1 Shure SRH1540

2 Sennheiser HD650

3 Sennheiser HD590

4 Sennheiser HD598

5 Denon AH-D600

 

PC Gaming

1 HD590 (the sound is very similar the HD598 but much more comfortable)

2 HD598 (I prefer the forward sound to the 1540)

2 SRH1540

3 HD650

4 D600

 

Movies

1 SRH1540

2 D600

3 HD650

4 HD598/HD590

 

EDM

1 D600

2 SRH1540

3 HD650

4 HD598/HD590

 

Rock/Alternative/Punk

1 SRH1540 (The bass drum is punchier than on the HD-650's which helps me get more immersed in the song)

2 HD650

3 HD598/HD590

4 D600

 

Rap/R&B

1 SRH1540 (close to the DT880 for this type of music but the bass has a tad more punch)

2 D600

3 HD650

4 HD598/HD590

post #4067 of 4542
SRH1540 w/Alpha pads
K612 PRO w/K702 pads
XBA-H3
Momentum On-Ear
post #4068 of 4542

Everything I've owned:

 

Full-size:

  1. SRH1540 *
  2. K712 PRO
  3. K702 Anniversary
  4. SRH1840
  5. K612 PRO*
  6. Q702
  7. Mad Dog 3.2
  8. Fidelio X1
  9. HP100
  10. SRH840
  11. ATH-M50
  12. ATH-AD700
  13. PRO 550

 

On-ear:

  1. M500
  2. Momentum OE*
  3. Amperior
  4. Crossfade M-80

 

IEM:

  1. Sony XBA-H3*
  2. SM64
  3. W4R
  4. SE535LTD
  5. GR07 BE
  6. GR07 MK2
  7. SE215LTD

 

(*currently own

post #4069 of 4542

Time for an update methinks; overall rank mostly based on sound, comfort and how much use they get because of these traits.

 

1 HIFIMAN HE-500

2 SENNHEISER MOMENTUM

3 BEYERDYNAMIC DT990 (all-day-long comfort physically and sound-wise)
4 FOSTEX T20RP MKII (bmf mod)

5 SONY DR-Z7 (can't rate this higher because it only sounds good out of my huge vintage speaker amp which is hardly practical)
6 GRADO SR80 

7 FOSTEX T10 (would rate higher, but quite uncomfortable)
8 REALISTIC PRO 50
9 AKG K250 
10 AKG K141 (Original Silver)
11 DERO MODELL D-550

12 RFT HOK 80 (still modding this, but right now with current mod sounds a bit poo)
13 KOSS PortaPro 
(14) SENNHEISER CX300II (IEM)

 

(ratings based PURELY on overall sonic qualities)

1 HIFIMAN HE-500

2 SENNHEISER MOMENTUM

3 SONY DR-Z7
4 FOSTEX T20RP MKII

5 BEYERDYNAMIC DT990
6 FOSTEX T10 

7 GRADO SR80 

8 REALISTIC PRO 50
9 AKG K141 Silver

10 AKG K250 

11 DERO MODELL D-550

12 RFT HOK 80
13 KOSS PortaPro 
(14) SENNHEISER CX300II

post #4070 of 4542

I don't yet own the PM-1, but I had a pair on hand all weekend and plan to add it to the stable soon permanently (or perhaps a PM-2 when it comes out, if it measures up well sonically to the PM-1), so I'll include it in my rankings this time around. As usual, my rankings are based on subjective enjoyment, not all-out technical prowess. I've also included amplifier information if somebody wishes to ask about a specific combo I'm using. The most recent additions are the PAT-4 vintage preamp (the second one I've owned), both pieces of the portable setup in slot #5, and (of course) the PM-1.

 

1. Koss ESP950 / E90

2. Oppo PM-1 / SPL Auditor

3. Sennheiser HD650 / AMC 1100

4. Mrspeakers Mad Dog V3.2 / Dynaco PAT-4

5. Denon AH-C400 / HeadSave Classic

post #4071 of 4542

1. AKG K501

2. Beyerdynamic DT990 from the 80's

3. Sennheiser HD580 with HD600 grills

4. Grado SR60 modded

5. Sennheiser 238

6. Koss KSC75

post #4072 of 4542
GREQ,

What do you like about Momentum?
How would you describe the Sony?
post #4073 of 4542
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post

GREQ,

What do you like about Momentum?
How would you describe the Sony?

I really like how the Momentum has a rolled-off treble BUT still has enough speed/attack for any genre.

I like how the bass is just slightly bloated, as this ensures it isn't drowned out by the noise outdoors (as usually bass is the first thing we perceive less in noisy surroundings)

I love the fit and comfort. They're tight enough that they dont' fall off or sway around when I'm walking around, and I can easily wear them for hours and forget I'm wearing them.

 

The Sony I would describe as 'unique'. 

Through the right source it is one of the most perfect on-ear headphone I've ever heard (but a little uncomfortable - not as bad as a stock-Grado SR60i).
It has however .... close to no soundstage whatsoever.

The only thing it really misses is some bass texture and low-bass grunt. 

It is focused, fluid and can be very intimate, but still kind of studio-ey.

(The sound through a neutral source is close to unbearable.)

post #4074 of 4542
Quote:
Originally Posted by GREQ View Post

I really like how the Momentum has a rolled-off treble BUT still has enough speed/attack for any genre.
I like how the bass is just slightly bloated, as this ensures it isn't drowned out by the noise outdoors (as usually bass is the first thing we perceive less in noisy surroundings)
I love the fit and comfort. They're tight enough that they dont' fall off or sway around when I'm walking around, and I can easily wear them for hours and forget I'm wearing them.

The Sony I would describe as 'unique'. 
Through the right source it is one of the most perfect on-ear headphone I've ever heard (but a little uncomfortable - not as bad as a stock-Grado SR60i).

It has however .... close to no soundstage whatsoever.
The only thing it really misses is some bass texture and low-bass grunt. 
It is focused, fluid and can be very intimate, but still kind of studio-ey.
(The sound through a neutral source is close to unbearable.)

Thanks. I was impressed with how rich a sound Sennheiser was able to coax out of such a small-looking model: it follows the overall sound of HD650. (I was surprised you like the comfort till I remembered your remarks about L-cushions being more circumaural for you--lucky guy!)

"Unbearable" or "unbeatable"? biggrin.gif
post #4075 of 4542
Everything I've got...

Tier 1

1. Grado Sr80i -Natural, beautiful with plenty of bass. Metal cans!
2. Koss KSC 75 -Very detailed, great soundstage and separation
3. Sennheiser Momentum -Relaxed but refined, very versatile!
4. Etymotic Er4s -Detail, detail, detail...uncomfortable!
5. Sennheiser HD201 -Nice cans, great mids and pretty balanced. Bass is a little fuzzy sounding though.

Tier 2

6. Audio Technica ATH M50 -Not enough mids, crazy sibilance and bass a bit muddy but nice detail.
7. Klipsch x10 -Bass is too full on for me, but nice mids, vocals sound awesome!
8. Sennheiser Px100 -A bit muffled, too much bass's and huge treble roll off.
9. Sennheiser cx300II -OK but the treble is harsh.
10. Pannasonic RP HT225- rubbish!
post #4076 of 4542
Quote:

Originally Posted by Claritas View Post


"Unbearable" or "unbeatable"? biggrin.gif

Hah - I wish!

post #4077 of 4542
Quote:
Originally Posted by GREQ View Post
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Claritas View Post


"Unbearable" or "unbeatable"? biggrin.gif

Hah - I wish!

Lol.

 

Updated lists:

 

Overall:

1: Sony DR-Z7

2: Pioneer Monitor 10-II

3: Pioneer Monitor 10

4: Fostex TH600

5: Pioneer SE-500

6: Sony MDR-605

7: KOSS PRO/4AAA (heavily modified)

 

Sound Only:

1: Pioneer Monitor 10/Sony DR-Z7 (totally different but equally excellent, can't choose)

2: Pioneer Monitor 10-II (lacks some of the "magic" of the 10-I; it's darker and has more prominent upper mids)

3: Pioneer SE-500

4: Sony MDR-605

5: KOSS PRO/4AAA

6: Fostex TH600 (sorry Fostex; way too farty and erratic)

 

./lazy ranking

post #4078 of 4542

1. Mad Dogs 3.2

2. Shure SRH940

3. Senn PX-100 (v1)

4. Monoprice 8320

post #4079 of 4542

By Our Headphones Shall Ye Know Us

 

While I am still trying to figure out how I rank my own headphones, I took a bit of time to analyze the most recent data on this thread.

 

I looked at the data for the past 4 months, which includes 1027 statements of headphone ranking.  I am using this as a small data set to eventually analyze a much larger portion of the data, time permitting.

 

The analysis includes rank orders posted from Nov. 22, 2013 through April 24, 2014.  These postings included:

 

  • 1027 headphones;
  • 154 headphone owners (that averages to 6-2/3 headphones per owner, at least 3x the number of bathtubs per owner -- do we have a lot of unwashed listeners?!! :etysmile:
  • 548 different headphone models.

 

With 548 headphone models and 1027 headphones, there are a lot of headphone models that only a few folks have... for example, 397 headphone models are listed by only 1 person, and 122 models are listed by two to five persons.  Hence, 519 headphone models are listed by less than 1/2 % of our post authors in that time segment.

 

Looking at the most frequently listed headphones, here are the headphones held by at least 1% of the folks in the sample (i.e. 10 or more people had these):

 

 

Headphones Owned by More than 1% of Rank Order Posters  
Model %
Sennheiser HD 800 2.5
Sennheiser HD 600 2.3
Sennheiser HD 650 2.3
Audeze LCD-2.2 1.4
Beyerdynamic T 1 1.4
Koss PortaPro 1.3
Sennheiser HD 598 1.3
Fostex TH600 1.2
HiFiMan HE-400 1.2
AKG K550 1.1
HiFiMAN HE-500 1.1
Audio-Technica ATH-M50 1.0

 

Each of these headphones was listed by multiple owners as part of a rank order list.  One can compute a relative position of a headphone on a rank order list... for example a Sennheiser HD 800 listed at the top of a list of three might be in a relative position of 0.33, i.e., 33% into the list.  If another person listed that headphone as second in a list of 6, it would be at a normalized position of .33 on that list as well.  In this manner, lists can be combined that rank various numbers of headphones.

 

With at least 10 lists that rank each of these most-commonly-used headphones, we can compute a rank position (closer to 0 if ranked high; closer to 1 if ranked low) as well as a standard deviation.  Here are the same headphones, ranked from "best" scoring (lowest) on down, with standard deviation:

 

Most Popular Headphones, Scored Best-to-Worst by Rank Position, with Standard Deviation

Model Rank Std (+/-)
Sennheiser HD 800 0.29 0.21
Beyerdynamic T 1 0.38 0.18
Audeze LCD-2.2 0.41 0.29
HiFiMan HE-500 0.44 0.24
Sennheiser HD 598 0.45 0.22
Fostex TH600 0.46 0.17
Sennheiser HD 600 0.48 0.31
Sennheiser HD 650 0.50 0.26
AKG K550 0.50 0.23
HiFiMAN HE-400 0.59 0.27
Audio-Technica ATH-M50 0.62 0.33
Koss PortaPro 0.77 0.26

 

This same information can be presented graphically, ordered from left to right by increasing position down the rank order list:

 


Rank Order Position, with Standard Deviation, of The Most Popular Headphones

 

What is most useful, and I've not yet computed, is how a particular headphone of interest compares to other specific headphones, as ranked by the folks on this thread.  If I am considering a Sennheiser HD 800 (which I am!), what headphones do folks rank ahead of it?  Equal to it?  Below it?  Are there any correlation of a person's ranking of a Sennheiser HD 800 with how they rank other headphones... for example, if they like bass headphones and have ranked Beats Pro relatively higher than most, do they tend to rank HD 800s lower (if indeed there ARE enough people that have both!?)

 

Ideally, my work here will result in a spreadsheet that I can post for all to use that allows one to dial in a headphone of interest and retrieve other headphones compared to that headphone of interest, how they compared, and perhaps even who made the comparison, to allow a note to that person to be sent ("@DrDre, why did you rank the Beats Pro above the Sennheiser HD 800?")

 

As I work further back into the data, the number of headphone models that have enough users to have useful statistical rankings will increase and such comparisons will be possible on more headphone types.

 

OK... back to data entry!


Edited by kayandjohn - 4/29/14 at 3:38pm
post #4080 of 4542

1.) AKG K712 Pro w/ Auric cable

2.) AKG K612 Pro (tie)

2.) Sennheiser HD 545 w/ Cardas cable (tie)

3.) MB Quart QP 220

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