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post #3706 of 5734
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post


Neutral ~ Lacking low end?

Cause stock the Q701 have very anemic bass.

I hate statements like these.  It's not true.  Put on a recording with deep and solid bass, and you'll hear deep and solid bass.  Maybe not to the point of something like the Hifiman HE400, but saying it's bass is anemic, or "Lacking vitality; listless and weak", is either a subjective opinion based on a basshead's distorted notion of what good bass is, or it's simply an objectively incorrect statement.

 

We could argue all day, but compare to 3 other headphones, Beyer 990, known as a bass monster, Grado SR80, considered a quite good headphone, and HD600, another 'classic'.

 


Yes, the 990 will have MORE bass because of it's 100-130hz bass hump, but another headphone without this emphasized bass is not anemic...  Anyhow, I guess it's something people just will never agree on...   I have the 990 and the Q701, yes, the 990 has more bass, and yes, it might sound more substantial, but saying the Q701's bass is anemic is ludicrous. 

 

If the recording has very little bass, yes, you'll hear very little bass on the Q701, and you might hear what you consider a 'normal' amount of bass on the 990.  Doesn't mean the Q701 lacks bass.  As on a record with a lot of bass, you'll hear a lot of bass on the Q701, and you'll more than likely hear much more bass on the 990. 

 

More bass is not better, and headphones which doesn't emphasize bass are not anemic...

post #3707 of 5734
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Originally Posted by SgtMattBaker View Post

Not many people is placed HE-6 higher than HD 800 or LCD-3. I am glad to see this smily_headphones1.gif

A few people in the last few pages hear it that way, myself included.
post #3708 of 5734
This is my list....

1. M-Audio Q40(+ Alpha pads)
2. Philips X1
3. Audio Technica WS55
4 .Koss Portapro
5. Sennheiser HD595
6. Sony XB700
7. JVC-RX 700
post #3709 of 5734
1) Audeze LCD-2.2
2) Beyerdynamic T5p
3) Westone ES2
4) Beyerdynamic T51p
post #3710 of 5734
GS1000i
Sennheiser 660
DT880
Sennheiser 555
650 edges out over the dt880 just for a smoother listen. Both are interchangeable in different situations
post #3711 of 5734
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post
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Originally Posted by SgtMattBaker View Post

Not many people is placed HE-6 higher than HD 800 or LCD-3. I am glad to see this smily_headphones1.gif
 
A few people in the last few pages hear it that way, myself included.

 

Also some people here in head-fi believe the HE-6 and HE-500 are in the same league. 

post #3712 of 5734
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post

Also some people here in head-fi believe the HE-6 and HE-500 are in the same league. 

Nobody who has heard both and heard the HE-6 well-driven believes this.
post #3713 of 5734
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post


Nobody who has heard both and heard the HE-6 well-driven believes this.

When I first heard the HE-6 and the HE-500 off a mjolnir, I actually thought the HE-500 sounded slightly better. I thought both were a level below the HD800 on the same amp. When I connected the HE-6 through a 100wpc integrated amp through the speaker taps, my whole opinion changed. The HE-6 is now a level above the HD800 to my ears. My opinion of course. 


Edited by lljayll - 1/29/14 at 5:42pm
post #3714 of 5734

1. HD800

2. TH600

3. Goldring 150

 

All driven from WA7.

Previously with iFi iCAN, TH600 sounds more to my liking than HD800.

post #3715 of 5734
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Originally Posted by lljayll View Post

When I first heard the HE-6 and the HE-500 off a mjolnir, I actually thought the HE-500 sounded slightly better. I thought both were a level below the HD800 on the same amp. When I connected the HE-6 through a 100wpc integrated amp through the speaker taps, my whole opinion changed. The HE-6 is now a level above the HD800 to my ears. My opinion of course. 

That's exactly the kind of experience I was talking about.

I share your opinion, but I think at that level of chain and headphone, providing all the headphones are well-driven, that it largely comes down to personal preference in sound presentation. At this (sub-Stax/Abyss) level opinions are predominantly distributed around the HD800, HE-6, and LCD-3/X.
Edited by NZtechfreak - 1/29/14 at 7:02pm
post #3716 of 5734
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Originally Posted by GirgleMirt View Post
 

I hate statements like these.  It's not true...

 

Perhaps not for you, but audio is incredibly subjective and while one person may hear a lack of bass, another may hear just enough bass. Anemic also means lacking power or energy. This is how I feel about the Q701 before the mod. Trance was simply not something I could get into w/ the stock Q701. Now that there's some oomph to the lower end, the headphone does a wonderful job w/ this genre. I am much happier now and just wanted to express that for those that may also be hearing the same thing. If you like the sound stock, great. But if another fella/fellar doesn't, now they have a way to "fix" the problem.

 

I could also understand if I was the only person on this forum that hears a much more natural low end and that the Q/K 701 was still neutral after the mod, but I'm not...

 

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Originally Posted by coldkick View Post
 

Just did the bass mod. The bass sounds much more natural and punchy now. The sibilance from voices is still there, but now it flows into the music rather than being harsh on the ears. I have to say this was worth it in every way. It still sounds very neutral to me. Loving it. :k701smile:

 

In fact, the vast majority of folks that have tried this mod have nothing but praise for it.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/660408/reversible-akg-k701-bass-mod

post #3717 of 5734
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post


Neutral ~ Lacking low end?

Cause stock the Q701 have very anemic bass.

I hate statements like these.  It's not true.  Put on a recording with deep and solid bass, and you'll hear deep and solid bass.  Maybe not to the point of something like the Hifiman HE400, but saying it's bass is anemic, or "Lacking vitality; listless and weak", is either a subjective opinion based on a basshead's distorted notion of what good bass is, or it's simply an objectively incorrect statement.

 

We could argue all day, but compare to 3 other headphones, Beyer 990, known as a bass monster, Grado SR80, considered a quite good headphone, and HD600, another 'classic'.

 


Yes, the 990 will have MORE bass because of it's 100-130hz bass hump, but another headphone without this emphasized bass is not anemic...  Anyhow, I guess it's something people just will never agree on...   I have the 990 and the Q701, yes, the 990 has more bass, and yes, it might sound more substantial, but saying the Q701's bass is anemic is ludicrous. 

 

If the recording has very little bass, yes, you'll hear very little bass on the Q701, and you might hear what you consider a 'normal' amount of bass on the 990.  Doesn't mean the Q701 lacks bass.  As on a record with a lot of bass, you'll hear a lot of bass on the Q701, and you'll more than likely hear much more bass on the 990. 

 

More bass is not better, and headphones which doesn't emphasize bass are not anemic...

Took the words right out of my mouth. +1

post #3718 of 5734

I would rank the headphones I own in the following order.

 

1. Shure 1540

2. Heir Audio 4.a

3. Etymotic ER4P

4. ATH AD700 

5. Sony MDR-R1

6. Sony MDR-XB800

post #3719 of 5734

For me at this stage...

 

Audeze LCD-3
HD800

Fostex TH-900

 

Not a lot in it though... very close - comes down to music types really and mood!

HE-6 will be joining the fray in not too long.. will see how that goes - looking forward to it :)

post #3720 of 5734
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Originally Posted by Revogamer View Post

For me at this stage...

Audeze LCD-3

HD800
Fostex TH-900

Not a lot in it though... very close - comes down to music types really and mood!


HE-6 will be joining the fray in not too long.. will see how that goes - looking forward to it smily_headphones1.gif

Hopefully there is an amp capable of driving it coming too! I do have a spare HiFiMan custom cable terminated in speaker banana plugs, if you want to borrow that for experimenting.
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