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post #2911 of 5607
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Yea, that's what I noticed about the amp. Compared to the Hifiman EF2A(stopped working after a few weeks) I had in the past, it's really flat and sterile on the DT 990s. Really good for warm and dark headphones though, seems perfect for darker or more neutral Senns. It can be a little harsh in the treble on the K240s at times due to the K240s 10khz spike, but the spike never causes me fatigue on the K240s and doesn't bother me much, but I would like a tad of the edge taken off. I would like an amp that smooths out the treble more though. Any suggestions on an amp that smooths out and tames the treble?

I do like my Audio gd C2.2 it has a nice relaxed tone and nothing seems emphasized including the treble. It also sounds quite airy with good soundstage for a SS amp. It comes with stock burr brown opamps that were a little too warm for my tastes but I replaced them with the much better opa627 and the treble is now very detailed and sweet with no hardness at all. (thats using the HD800's aswell) I've had quite a few amps come and go while I'm hanging on to this one. Quite a bargain for what you get. If you do look into it, makes sure its the C2.2 as opposed to the C2 as there where improvements including output power. If I remember rightly it gives about 3 watts into 32 ohms. 

 

Another bargain is the good ole' M-stage, I use one for my bedside rig and this also has nice treble. Not quite as smooth as the Audio gd but defo not hard sounding either. the M-stage is more suited for higher impedance hp's because of the lower current output (the exception is the K701/2's). Where as the Audio gd can cater for both high and low impedance in my experience.

 

Both amps can be fine tuned with different opamps. And remember, a very subtle difference can make or break a component! IMO :) 

post #2912 of 5607
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I do like my Audio gd C2.2 it has a nice relaxed tone and nothing seems emphasized including the treble. It also sounds quite airy with good soundstage for a SS amp. It comes with stock burr brown opamps that were a little too warm for my tastes but I replaced them with the much better opa627 and the treble is now very detailed and sweet with no hardness at all. (thats using the HD800's aswell) I've had quite a few amps come and go while I'm hanging on to this one. Quite a bargain for what you get. If you do look into it, makes sure its the C2.2 as opposed to the C2 as there where improvements including output power. If I remember rightly it gives about 3 watts into 32 ohms. 

 

Another bargain is the good ole' M-stage, I use one for my bedside rig and this also has nice treble. Not quite as smooth as the Audio gd but defo not hard sounding either. the M-stage is more suited for higher impedance hp's because of the lower current output (the exception is the K701/2's). Where as the Audio gd can cater for both high and low impedance in my experience.

 

Both amps can be fine tuned with different opamps. And remember, a very subtle difference can make or break a component! IMO :) 

 



Okay thank you, I'll keep those amps in mind, sounds like the C2.2 will be perfect with the current hungry K240 and other current hungry headphones. Yes it can make or break a device, I've even noticed some cables and DACs change the harshness on the components.

 

I was thinking about eventually getting the WooAudio WA6 as it's know to be on the dark side and really tames the treble, and I am a fan of the tube sound, but it will be a very long time until I can consider it. A solid state amp that suits my tastes is first on my list though. I'm done with buying headphones for now as it seems I need to focus on my system first.


Edited by kman1211 - 5/10/13 at 1:54pm
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'Fixing' the transient response is very easy with DSP.

"Fixing" transient response with a DSP (Digital Signal Processor)? How can that be done?? The transient response of a headphone is largely dependent on the mechanical and electrical properties of the headphone driver. How can that be fixed with signal processing without actually interfering with the original signal (which most of us don't want to do)? 


Edited by bracko - 5/10/13 at 11:38pm
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Originally Posted by vid View Post

 

'Fixing' the transient response is very easy with DSP.

"Fixing" transient response with a DSP (Digital Signal Processor)? How can that be done?? The transient response of a headphone is largely dependent on the mechanical and electrical properties of the headphone driver. How can that be fixed with signal processing without actually interfering with the original signal (which most of us don't want to do)? 

 

The transient response of a headphone is (virtually) completely determined by its mechanical design. Electronics can't 'fix' it but may be able to produce an altered signal the listener finds more pleasing.

post #2915 of 5607
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How can that be fixed with signal processing without actually interfering with the original signal (which most of us don't want to do)? 

 

You've proposed a question and then dictated such a rigid framework within which it must be answered that no answer can be provided.

post #2916 of 5607

Current list, added the K 701 before they get returned.

 

1. Sennheiser unipolar 2000
2. Yamaha HP-50S
3. Sennheiser HD 530

4. AKG K 250

5. AKG K 701

6. Beyerdynamic DT 990
7. AKG K 240 DF
8. KWH HOK 80
9. AKG K 241
10. AKG K 141

post #2917 of 5607
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The transient response of a headphone is (virtually) completely determined by its mechanical design. Electronics can't 'fix' it but may be able to produce an altered signal the listener finds more pleasing.

I am completely aware of what potential electronics and signal processing have. I have phd in signal processing. The op stated that the transient response of headphones can be fixed using dsp and i reacted on that. The only thing one can do is to alter the original signal not to fix the transient response.
post #2918 of 5607
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You've proposed a question and then dictated such a rigid framework within which it must be answered that no answer can be provided.

You are allowed to answer my question outsite my rigid framework.
post #2919 of 5607
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Originally Posted by muxamed View Post

You are allowed to answer my question outsite my rigid framework.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/111193/orthodynamic-roundup/21525#post_9393712

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Sorry, I completely missed that thread. 

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It is hard to find the answer on that thread so I'd like to ask you what are you doing with the signal? Are you doing some kind of preconditioning? 

post #2922 of 5607

1) Superlux 668B (for better balance sound)

2) Grado SR80i (for more dynamic and fun to listen to)

3) AKG K412 thats my old phones in my avatar and still working :D

post #2923 of 5607

After months of exhaustive testing back and forth I've finally ranked my two headphones.  It was tough, but in the end I had to pick a winner.  Here are the results.

 

1. HD800

2. SR80i

post #2924 of 5607
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Originally Posted by brokenthumb View Post

After months of exhaustive testing back and forth I've finally ranked my two headphones.  It was tough, but in the end I had to pick a winner.  Here are the results.

 

1. HD800

2. SR80i

 

Good show ..... easily could've gone either way.

post #2925 of 5607
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Originally Posted by brokenthumb View Post

After months of exhaustive testing back and forth I've finally ranked my two headphones.  It was tough, but in the end I had to pick a winner.  Here are the results.

 

1. HD800

2. SR80i


Sit down kiddos and let me tell you why this ranking is so wrong.

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