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post #136 of 4861

V600 Rating

Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyfrenchman27
Wow, I've heard the V600 before and I can say that the Sony SA5000 has to be awfully bad to deserve such a rating.

...unless you really think the V600 are that good .

I don't know, giving the V600 an eight on a scale of 1 - 10 (with RS1 placed at a nine) sounds like crazy talk to me.
Sounds like crazy talk, perhaps, but it just might be attributable to its relative price/value in relation to headphones, reputed to be the best, that cost anywhere from 3-10 times more. I had to give them another close listen and, even at the risk of being castigated to the Insane Team (would I be its first and only member?), I had to call it like I heard it.

Ken
post #137 of 4861
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenB
But, I said to myself, in all fairness, you ought to give it another critical listen before assigning it a rank order based solely on perception of price/value.
Ken
I actually did that same test over the weekend with V600 vs. Senn 595 with iPod->TAH serving as the source/amp. For me the V600 didn't fair nearly as well. Frankly the $35 Sony wraparounds my wife has sounded as good as the V600. Granted I'm not using a great amp/source but they weren't anywhere near the Senns.

That being said, they weren't horrible to listen to. They were the first cans that cost me more than about $40 so I have a fondness for them but I'll likely never listen to them again unless I am desperate .....

Ant
post #138 of 4861
When you mean rank in what criteria technical ability, personal favourites, Bang per buck??? If you mean personal faves then this is how I would rank my top 5 overall.

1. Rs-1
2. Hp-2's
3. He60
4. AT-w100
5. hd650+Zu.
post #139 of 4861

Willing to Learn...

Quote:
Originally Posted by apostate
I actually did that same test over the weekend with V600 vs. Senn 595 with iPod->TAH serving as the source/amp. For me the V600 didn't fair nearly as well. Frankly the $35 Sony wraparounds my wife has sounded as good as the V600. Granted I'm not using a great amp/source but they weren't anywhere near the Senns.

That being said, they weren't horrible to listen to. They were the first cans that cost me more than about $40 so I have a fondness for them but I'll likely never listen to them again unless I am desperate .....

Ant
What sonic/quality characteristics, specifically, did you find worse on the V600's compared to the Senn 595's?

Willing to be relearnt...

Ken
post #140 of 4861
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagle_Driver
This is my ranking (no score shall be given):

1) Sennheiser HD 600
2) Etymotic ER-4S
3) Sennheiser HD 555
4) Grado SR-225
5) Grado SR-325
6) AKG K240S
7) Sony MDR-CD2000
8) Grado SR-80
9) Grado SR-60
10) Sennheiser HD 497
11) Sennheiser HD 280 Pro
12) Sennheiser PX 100
13) Koss Porta Pro/KSC35
14) Sony MDR-XD400
15) Shure E3c
16) Sony MDR-7509
17) Sony MDR-7506
18) Sennheiser PX 200
19) Sony MDR-G74SL
20) Shure E2c

Those are my top 20. Anything lower than #20, and I don't want to mention it.
Really, Eagle? You'd really rank the HD-555 above the SR-325 and SR-225? That makes me feel so warm and fuzzy inside.
post #141 of 4861
My choices:

1. (tie)Grado RS-1 and/or Senn HD650/Zu depending upon the mood.
2. Grado HP-2
3. Shure E5C
4. Grado SR-225
5. Ety ER-4P
6. Grado SR-60/80
post #142 of 4861
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenB
What sonic/quality characteristics, specifically, did you find worse on the V600's compared to the Senn 595's?

Willing to be relearnt...

Ken
The biggest thing that struck me about the V600s was the lack of clarity and detail compared to the Senns pretty much across the board. The bass was stronger in the V600s but there wasn't much definition to it and the high's seemed pretty coarse. I saw the most glaring differences in two songs.

1) Diana Krall/Live in Paris/Just The Way You Are - This song sounds amazing on the Senns and probably plays to some of it's strengths which may make for a biased comparison. The V600s did a reasonable job on the song but there was a lot less detail and it didn't have the same emotion to me. I'd imagine it is something to do with the upper midrange though I'd have to listen again to say why.

2) Metallica/Garage Inc./Whisky In The Jar - This song sounds really muddy on the V600s in the low ranges. To my ears it had the effect of bass just kind of droning on without any real separation between the notes. While hard rock/metal is probably not the 595s biggest strength this song really rocks with them and there is a lot more texture to the song than the V600s let on.

(Sorry for the brief threadjack.....)
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FWIW my current ratings of phones I own all with iPod(lossless)/cardas mini-mini/TAH just to keep it even:

1) Senn 595 = 7.5 - (gotta leave room for improvement, it's still got the stock cable)
2) V600 = 4 - (I see glimmers of potential in a sea of confusion for these cans)
3) iPod buds = 1 - (wow, almost better to just forgo them entirely)

Woody 225s should be here tomorrow. We'll see how the list changes.

Ant
post #143 of 4861
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovesocks
Really, Eagle? You'd really rank the HD-555 above the SR-325 and SR-225? That makes me feel so warm and fuzzy inside.
The Grados lost points with me due to their peaky upper range.
post #144 of 4861
1) SA5000
2) HD595
3) SR225 (though they are first on the auction block as I sell off the unneeded equip, the Sony's render them obsolete)
4) A700 (For movies I rank them tops though), tied with HD280Pro
5) KSC-50

Yes, I need to get rid of some of this stuff Somewhere around 3 there's also my FrankenSenns - HD525s casings with 545 pads and 580 drivers. What can I say, I like to experiment.
post #145 of 4861
1) HD-650 (stock) w/ HR-2
2) HD-600 Cardas w/ Stealth
2)Ety ER-4p/s w/ SR-71 & TBH
2) SR-325i w/ HR-2

#1 on lust list=UE10 Pro
post #146 of 4861
1) AKG K1000
2) AKG K501
3) Senn HD650 stocck cable / Ety 4S
4) Ipod white crapuds
post #147 of 4861
What I own right now:

1. Sony CD3000
2. Beyer 250-250
3. Sony SA5000
4. Grado SR-80
5. Senn HD 280
post #148 of 4861
My 'overall' rankings are (ranked by use):

1. Beyerdynamic DT880 - just does it for me and my music collection
2. Etymotic ER4S - #1 for all the flying I do
3. Sennheiser HD650 - could be #1, just a bit too much bass - put it on my head more than the 501, as 880 gives me what I'm missing here
4. AKG501 - an outstanding phone, and #1 for a small sampling of my collection, but for the majority, needs more headroom and a tad more thump
post #149 of 4861
Sennheiser MX-500 ---> #1
Sony Stock earbuds --> #2
post #150 of 4861
HD650 w/stock cable
HD650 w/Cardas
HD595

Actually I have difficulties ranking the 650 with the different cables. The can gets quite a different character change, but it is hard to criticise or favour any. It comes down to preference I would say. However, the stock cable is "not-bad-at-all" .
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