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post #31 of 44
5/1/02 at 9:51pm
The term "luddite" comes to mind...
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post #32 of 44
5/1/02 at 10:04pm
Thread Starter 
PPPPPTHPPP!!!
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post #33 of 44
5/1/02 at 10:37pm
Anybody remember what glass is made of? When you vote for "Team Silicon", just whose side are you on?
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post #34 of 44
5/1/02 at 10:41pm
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Originally posted by Hirsch
Anybody remember what glass is made of? When you vote for "Team Silicon", just whose side are you on?
Team Hourglass
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post #35 of 44
5/2/02 at 1:09am
I, of course, voted for Team Valve. Or, as some of you would call it, Team Luddite, Team Retro, Team Euphonic, Team Glass, Team Euphoric...

But I really do not like the way the poll is phrased. It is really biased towards tubes. And even moreso, biased towards picking a side. It's not so much not knowing, as not caring.

Jude, for example, specifically spelled out a very convincing case for Team Well-Built in several posts (at least one of which was in response to me).

So, raspberry (aka "lppppt") would be my favourite fruit.
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post #36 of 44
5/2/02 at 1:23am
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It is biased towards picking a side, but then again, both types of technology have different characteristics don't they?

If they didn't, the trillions of posts that recommend "accurate, flat, performance at the extremes, neutral sounding" solid state amps and "midrangey, lush, emotional, rolled off extremes" tube amps would all be groundless mumblings from befuddled audio consumers who had no clue of what they were talking about.

This poll is based upon generalities common to both technologies. Those of us who have demoed a fair amount of gear know the strengths and weaknesses of each...

.....riiiiight?

By the way, how is it biased towards tubes?
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post #37 of 44
5/2/02 at 1:35am
given a choice between the two I would go with tubes , but more than one way to spell hybrid.
Solid Stae rectifiers , supply regulators , current sources , servos ,.............
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post #38 of 44
5/2/02 at 2:23am
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Originally posted by kelly
In all seriousness, I think it's silly to marry a technology. I do believe tubes and solid states have general strengths and weaknesses that don't always apply to the specific. In general, I've found cheaper tube amps to more easily achieve liquidy realistic vocals and better decay than cheaper solid state amps. In general, I've found cheaper solid state amps to more easily achieve speed and tonal accuracy than cheaper tube amps. (These generalizations extend beyond headphone amps and into general speaker amps as well.) As you move up to higher end equipment, all bets are off.
My thoughts exactly. IMO my CHA47 with Grados sounded better than MG Head with HD600's. I once was able to hear the HD600's with a melos, and was quite impressed with that. I still have yet to hear a super-high-end solid state amp. I can't wait till the headroom tour comes to california so i can go hear some of there bigger badass amps.
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post #39 of 44
5/2/02 at 2:31am
What do you think I voted?
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post #40 of 44
5/2/02 at 2:44am
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Originally posted by Nick Dangerous
It is biased towards picking a side, but then again, both types of technology have different characteristics don't they?
Yeah, and they both share two characteristics: they can both sound good, and they can both sound bad.

Now, don't get me wrong, I voted tube. I honestly believe I can hear a difference. I haven't been dbt'd, but intend to, someday. I haven't heard enough different high-end amps to be sure, so that remains qualified with a "we'll see".

But there are people such as jude (and I apologize for using you as an example, jude, if you mind, but it's as good an example as any) that have heard what they need to hear to make a decision -- and refuse to. I honestly believe that tube or solid state becomes less important as you start going high end.
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If they didn't, the trillions of posts that recommend "accurate, flat, performance at the extremes, neutral sounding" solid state amps and "midrangey, lush, emotional, rolled off extremes" tube amps would all be groundless mumblings from befuddled audio consumers who had no clue of what they were talking about.
You really do need to hear the RKV.

PS That is my way of saying, yes, they are all groundless mumblings...
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By the way, how is it biased towards tubes?
Heh-heh, I made you say "bias" and "tubes" in the same breath.
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post #41 of 44
5/2/02 at 2:51am
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Originally posted by Tuberoller
What do you think I voted?
TUBE!!!
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post #42 of 44
5/2/02 at 3:00am
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Heh-heh, I made you say "bias" and "tubes" in the same breath.
You sneaky! Sneaky Dusty!

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You really do need to hear the RKV.
Yes, I really really do! Kelly?

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I honestly believe that tube or solid state becomes less important as you start going high end.
Yes, I concur. We are talking serious money equipment here... beyond what 95% of what we Head-Fi'ers talk about and buy.

Like the Melos 333, perhaps.
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post #43 of 44
5/10/02 at 8:46pm
Team Valve: I've had more fun with tubes than I've had with transistors.

NGF
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post #44 of 44
5/12/02 at 5:52pm
Thread Starter 
Nice avatar!
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