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Suggest mini-to-RCA y-cable for iPod-to-amp

post #1 of 15
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I would like some advice from the gurus on this one. I connect my iPod dock's line-out to my Musical Fidelity headphone amp currently with an Audioquest Mini-1 (same construction as Copperhead/G-Snake as far as I can tell). However, I did some recent reading on Blue Jeans Cable (the only sensible cables site I've found so far) and it appears that just about any coax with good isolation (shield) and termination (plugs) will do the job. Alas, they (BJC) do not offer mini-to-RCA y-cables. Any suggestions?

I am thinking of Zu Mobius or Monster THX Mini-whatever-aka-iCable (cheap but too long). I am a little leery of the small-time audiophile brands that offer amazing sound improvements from exotic materials but share nothing about the shielding or termination designs (Zu is in that category, their site is too cryptic). If there is a manufacturer that uses good Belden professional grade coax to make mini-to-RCA cables, I would be even happier to learn about them.
post #2 of 15
Stay clear of Monster Y-Cables--absolute crap IMHO. I'm not sure about shielding, but the Zu cables do sound good.
post #3 of 15
Earcandy 3.5mm stereo mini plug to a pair of RCA plugs this cable is well worth
grate sound quality only if you wanth the best of the best.

This cable is from thecablepro.com
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post #4 of 15
Zu Pivot. can be had for around $40 through Zu eBay Promotion.
post #5 of 15
Best Buy sells an AR cable that is <$25. Even if you spent $25 on Monster Cable or $100 on Ear Candy, you are not going to be able to tell the difference in sound. Save your money.
post #6 of 15

Bologna, okay baloney!

I'm always surprised when somebody offers their opinion on a product they've never tried. I can assure that every cable sounds different. Some better, some worse. You would be remiss if you didn't try these things before you make a final decision. If sound quality is the issue a few dollars spent now reaps large rewards over time. I mean you're not buying this cable to use for a few weeks, if the cable really brings the musical experience home, how much is that worth? Considering you'll own the thing for years to come, that extra expenditure doesn't amount to even pennies a day.

Obviously, I have a vested interest here. Too often though the uneducated make statements that have nothing to do with direct experience. Follow your ears. I can tell you that Earcandy and Panorama cables are enjoyed by many people who aren't ignorant wealthy folks who have nothing better to do.

Most of our customer's have limited budgets as well, but they are willing to spend a little more to get the top-notch performance.
post #7 of 15
I have purchased several custom made cables from Larry at www.headphile.com. They are of excellent quality and parts and sound great! His website describes the various combinations and lengths he sells, and he will make you a custom length if none of the standard ones suit you. I think his cables are a great deal.
post #8 of 15
Also, see the Straighwire mini to RCA offered by Headroom. A very nice cable for only $20. Well constructed. Sounds very good to me in my portable setup. There is a thread you could probably find with a search comparing this cable to other high end cables and reporting the differences to be minute. But also, note that most cable vendors offer at least a 30-day return. So if you think a $40 cable, or a $100 cable will make a big difference in your setup, you could always give it a shot. Return them if it doesn't make a difference, and keep the $20 cable.
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 

Surprising results

I just spent quite a long time doing A/B of my old Radio Shack Y-cable and my AudioQuest Mini-1 via my Onkyo receiver and Senn 650 (my headphone amp takes only one line in), as well as through my speakers. Guess what? I could not make out any meaningful difference between the two interconnects, with music or test tones. I did not have a spectral analyzer, maybe that would have measured something I could not hear. Funny thing is, the supposedly shielded AQ picked up more noise from my cell phone than the RS cable, although both were affected. Hopefully I can return the AQ to the store! I may test some other cables, probably something better shielded. AudioQuest is clearly overpriced trash.

I am currently of the opinion that if one has an electrically noisy environment (which is not common), a well shielded cable is preferable. In all other cases, it seems like any wire does the job.

In all fairness, if I had a much better source than the iPod (mostly something with a better DAC and power supply; iPod was playing Apple Lossless files anyhow), I might be able to make out some subtle difference with different cables.
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by seattlepod
In all fairness, if I had a much better source than the iPod (mostly something with a better DAC and power supply; iPod was playing Apple Lossless files anyhow), I might be able to make out some subtle difference with different cables.
I would almost guarantee it.
post #11 of 15
Now that the cat's out of the bag, talk to Grover about a custom Ultimate Reference Cable.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by jpr703
Stay clear of Monster Y-Cables--absolute crap IMHO. I'm not sure about shielding, but the Zu cables do sound good.

oh great, all this time and I thaught they were really good cables
post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Naga
oh great, all this time and I thaught they were really good cables
Don't suddenly change your mind I have not tried Monster yet dur to high cost and inconvenient length. I bet they are not as bad as some audiophiles think. They are similar in design to what I am using right now.

I am right now auditioning a "semi-balanced" Acoustic Research mini-to-RCA. A/B against Radio Shackwas inconclusive; I could not tell a difference but I was tired and did not do pink noise, test tones, etc. Monster on their web site claims that their interconnects are also "semi-balanced" twisted pairs inside. I am really not sure "semi-balancing" provides as good a shiled as a regular (decent) unbalanced braided coax, although it seems better than my AudioQuest (which is now gone).

Today I went climbing with a British guy who turned out to be an audiophile in the fine UK tradition. When interconnects, my topic du jour, came up, he told me he could not tell the difference between his gourmet Brit $200 interconnects and $30 ones. I am not at all surprised. So do not knock AQ and Monster that much; they and also Ixos and Acoustic Research make good stuff in the $15-$30 range.

I've done a ton of reading online on the topic of cables. There are a few good sites, one by a retired speaker designer at McIntosh laboratories, Audioholics, and some others. Basic idea is that if the cable is short but not too thin or otherwise compromised design, the only meaningful difference is EMI / RFI shield.
post #14 of 15
Kimber has a new line of mini-RCAs. I'm going on previous Kimber experience. Should be good.
http://www.kimber.com/
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lextek
Kimber has a new line of mini-RCAs. I'm going on previous Kimber experience. Should be good.
http://www.kimber.com/
I've seen the Kimber Tonik which I think this one is based upon. Thick enough wire to transmit the entire audio band with minimal resistance etc, but no shielding whatsoever.
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