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Etys 4s + TA or 4p + adapter

post #1 of 17
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Hi,

I'm in quite a dilemma right now. I'll be leaving for Singapore from Toronto in about 4 weeks from now. I need some serious entertainment for the trip as it's about 26 hours by plane. I'm debating over to get the 4S's with the TA or the 4P's with the adapter to increase the resistance. The TA's about $139 and the adapter's around $60. I'm on pretty much a tight budget here and would not want to spend too much money on audio equipment as nowadays I find myself driving around very often. In other words I'll only use it once or twice a month as I don't really listen to music when I study either. The only headphones I've had to far are the MSIIs which are really great but not portable and are open to the person sitting next to me will really get irritated if I listen to it for the whole trip.
Any comments are appreciated.

Thanks
J
post #2 of 17
I say go with the 4Ps + adapter. You do have a portable CD player, right?

This way, you can bring your PCDP plus the Etys, and leave the adapter at home. Later, after you invest in an amp better than the TA, you can use the adapter to unleash the full potential of the Etys.
post #3 of 17
Unless you really want x-feed I don't think the TA is the best for the money. The Cmoy CHA amp I got real cheap from JMT is better IMO. Not to mention I'd expect the Porta-Corda to be quite good as well if you need x-feed. My biggest complaint of the TA is that instead of 9V batteries it uses 2 AA's and a DC-DC convertor which I think gives it some noise floor and some slight raspyness.

The 4P + adapter is also a great alternative especially if you want to use MD's and have the best portability possible.

My Ety4S were just awesome for my trip to and from Europe and I forgot to bring the JMT amp.
post #4 of 17
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Took me a while to figure what PCDP was LOL! Yes I do have it's a really old rugged Panasonic shockwaves.
thanks for the suggestion, that was my idea but I hate not settling for the 'best'. Do you think the price at Sagearts will remain the same after today(31st July)?
post #5 of 17
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Originally posted by Tim D
Unless you really want x-feed I don't think the TA is the best for the money. The Cmoy CHA amp I got real cheap from JMT is better IMO. Not to mention I'd expect the Porta-Corda to be quite good as well if you need x-feed. My biggest complaint of the TA is that instead of 9V batteries it uses 2 AA's and a DC-DC convertor which I think gives it some noise floor and some slight raspyness.

The 4P + adapter is also a great alternative especially if you want to use MD's and have the best portability possible.

My Ety4S were just awesome for my trip to and from Europe and I forgot to bring the JMT amp.
Hi Tim,

Where would I be able to get the amp you mentioned? Which portable source are you using? I'm not too sure how powerful my PCDP is but was built circa 1997 I think. Did just powering it out from the portable source degrade the sound?

Thanks
Jason
post #6 of 17
With the 4S, a portable simply doesn't have enough "oomph" behind it to drive it to its optimal level....
post #7 of 17
I got my JMT CHA Amp from a trade with...JMT!

Keep in mind i'm on a flight packed like sardines with a roaring engine...lets just say that I'm not going to protest too much that my 4S weren't driven optimally because I didn't bring my JMT amp! As far as portables, Panasonic CDP's aren't shabby. As for how it degrades sound driven without an amp...among other things, it makes the Ety's bass shy.

If you are only going to listen them for a few times a month...the 4P is certainly good enough! No point in nitpicking such fine details or getting the 4S + amp if you already know you won't use it much more than flights. The only problem is if you get them and like their sound enough that you realize you should have nitpicked in retrospect (still no biggie when there is an adapter out there!).

I have the 4S with a sweet portable amp, but still think the 4P + adapter combo is a sweet and versatile combo.
post #8 of 17
Does anyone know where I can get that adaptor for ety's 4P??
post #9 of 17
if you get a homemade amp you maight be able to request that the builder add 73 ohm resistors (or better yet a switchable output with a 73 ohm resistor) at the output, so you can save yourself some cash from buying the adapter cable.
post #10 of 17
Does anyone know Headroom's reason for choosing to use 2 AA batteries and a DC-DC converter in the TA, instead of a 9-volt? I personally found the AA choice attractive in that AA are always easy to find versus 9-volts which don't pop up at every 7-11.. But I was wondering what Headroom's decision was based on for using AAs? Perhaps just that.
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Tim D
I got my JMT CHA Amp from a trade with...JMT!

Keep in mind i'm on a flight packed like sardines with a roaring engine...lets just say that I'm not going to protest too much that my 4S weren't driven optimally because I didn't bring my JMT amp! As far as portables, Panasonic CDP's aren't shabby. As for how it degrades sound driven without an amp...among other things, it makes the Ety's bass shy.

If you are only going to listen them for a few times a month...the 4P is certainly good enough! No point in nitpicking such fine details or getting the 4S + amp if you already know you won't use it much more than flights. The only problem is if you get them and like their sound enough that you realize you should have nitpicked in retrospect (still no biggie when there is an adapter out there!).

I have the 4S with a sweet portable amp, but still think the 4P + adapter combo is a sweet and versatile combo.
Hi Tim D,

How then would the 4p compare to the 325s? BTW packed like sardines is just the correct term to describeb the flight. I hope I get the aisle seat! How much did you get it form JMT for?

Thanks
J
post #12 of 17
hmm, what is this adapter you're all talking about
good for?

Sorry, if this is a atupid question


Bye

Redwoood
post #13 of 17
Quote:
Does anyone know where I can get that adaptor for ety's 4P??
i think daniel pumphery has been selling the adapter cable. it is pretty simple to make yourself.

Quote:
Does anyone know Headroom's reason for choosing to use 2 AA batteries and a DC-DC converter in the TA, instead of a 9-volt?
i remember back on headroom's message board, one of the headroom guys said that AA's were used because it's more readily available (and are usually cheaper).

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hmm, what is this adapter you're all talking about
good for?
the er4p and er4s use the same transducers, the only difference being resistors in the pod of the cable. the adapter adds extra impedance to the er4p so that it sounds like the er4s.
post #14 of 17
Jaskin: Apparently, the Etys are *the* most detailed dynamic headphones (except maybe some high-end Sonys), bordering on the quality of electrostatics. I love mine. Grados sound good, but Etys...

And if I'd known about the ease of making an adapter I'd have gotten 4Ps and built the resistors into my amp.
post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh there goes the sage arts sale. $260 right now + very expensive shipping.
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