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post #31 of 589
1/25/05 at 5:55am
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Originally Posted by Sduibek


Date me! ^^''

(Dang, where's the Love-struck emoticon?)
BWHAHAHA... /me awaits the newsflash
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post #32 of 589
1/25/05 at 6:17am
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Originally Posted by Sduibek


Date me! ^^''

(Dang, where's the Love-struck emoticon?)
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Originally Posted by Stephonovich
BWHAHAHA... /me awaits the newsflash
Newsflash! I only like girls. ^^
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post #33 of 589
1/25/05 at 7:31am
Anime is considered art in Japan or would the New York Philarmonic Orchestra also perform pieces from a Spongebob soundtrack? There's a lot of bad stuff but there are some good ones, too.

The French/German cultral TV station "arte" once had an anime special and they normally only show concerts, documentaries or non-mainstream artistical movies.

I'm not an anime fan but an old friend of mine owns an anime hub on the dc++ network so sometimes we had those DVD sessions. I have to say that there is a lot of good stuff and the best of them can rival some of the really good real life movies. Anime soundtracks are sometimes exceptionally good, too. Somebody already mentioned Cowboy Bebop, which indeed has a great soundtrack. In fact, it's one of the best soundtracks ever, anime or not.

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Originally Posted by Kirosia
I personally don't hate anime at all, but I do hate anime fanboys (the really obssesed ones), who dream about fake women and think they're cool cause they think they're different. (I used to be in the early stages a while back, thank goodness I regained most of my sanity) Not to mention that many anime fans talk lots of s**t about the "normies" and anyone else they'd be afraid to say anything to face-to-face. (I made that normie thing up, I hope)

The handful of obvious anime fans I've personally met were weirdos who kept thinking I wanted to be their friend cause I was asian. Righhhht. I really wanted to tell them to shove it. You're real cool cause ya got the money to buy expensive anime cds + posters and ya're into "asian" culture (cough*bulls**t*cough), yea us pathetic fobs (we all are to you guys, aren't we) really want to be your friend cause you're upper-class and the bomb! And another thing, if you can't get american girls/guys, why the hell would you think asian women/men would want you? Hell, even animated ones wouldn't touch ya. =)

One guy who was in my comp class looked quite crazy and kept trying to stare me down. (like he wanted to fight me to look cool, ya know, take on the tough asian guy) I was *this* close to taking him and his fat friend out to pasture. I still stereotype the typical american anime fanboy as a social outcast who can't get real women. Or at least good ones that don't need paper bags. I've yet to meet one who hasn't fit this. I've even met online asian-loving fanboys who were disgraceful, sick, and utterly f8ed up in the head. Probably at least half the anime forums out there are filled with these guys. I'm also tired of being hit on by ugly american girls who think I'm japanese or korean. I ain't either. And I won't pretend to be. And no, we do not all speak the same language.

Saying that, I do enjoy asian media. But I do not have posters on my wall, dress like anime/game characters, or collect gundam toys or anything. It's a personal interest, and I do not/try not to flaunt in everyday life. I'm a bit hypocritical here I know, so everyone, save the speech. If you do "embrace" it, fine, but it doesn't make ya any more special than anyone else. So don't think you are.

And now, I will become even more hated on head-fi. Also, as for the link, I think the pics look pretty cool.

(If you're a reg. fan, this doesn't apply to you. I like anime to some extent as well. This post is to all the crazy obsessed guys I've met over the years, the ones that are close to being scary. and aeriyn, I hope I don't offend you especially, since I'm quite afraid of you )
Kiriosa, with all respect but you are thinking way too much in categories with fixed conceptions of things and there's some very derogatory stuff in your post. [edit]
I mistake Italian, Swiss Italian and Spanish people all the time and they don't mind. Somebody asks you "Are you Japanese". "No, I'm ...". That's it. If you see an African person, do you know which exact country he's from? In Mosambique I couldn't even tell whether they were 20 or 40 years old.

Anyway, in my opinion, anime culture is one good display of the polarized Japanese society, polarized by many extremes, probably more than the big majority of other countries, certainly more than European countries as far as I can tell. It acts as a ventilation and compensation for things unfulfilled in real life and despite its less than ideal founding reasons, or rather especially due to these reasons the result is often art of the highest order of magnitude. Maybe as an analogy, the Greek society, which has brought us so many great tragedies and philosophic jewels, was marked by a people which was often very depressive in nature. This can be read from historical accounts. Now, Japan is not ancient Greece but people in Japan are put under more stress than in other industrialized countries. It has the highest rate of stomach cancer for example and the general competition is very fierce, I'd say even more fierce than in China. Anime is one way of escapenism but a very entertaining one.

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post #34 of 589
1/25/05 at 7:44am
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post #35 of 589
1/25/05 at 7:51am
Grr, animefreaks. Always correcting your pronounciation of karaoke and anime.

And why the hell would you pride yourself in being called otaku? I'm a geek! I'm special!

Grr. (look what overexposure to animefreaks in my highschool japanese class did to me )
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post #36 of 589
1/25/05 at 8:14am
I usually make sure there are no shiny surfaces where I wear headphones. Never, ever in my life would I have even considered drawing pictures of headphones on imaginary people except for design purposes.


He hazu too macchi taimu on hizu hanzu. Dorow nekido beybuzu wizu "biggu cannzu" insuteddo... Pureezu!
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post #37 of 589
1/25/05 at 8:24am
I have to say I agree for the most part with Minya. I don't like anime largely because I find it aesthetically unappealing. The choppy animation looks cheap, and the fetishized characters (impossibly large eyes and women with implausibly large breasts and huge, curvy bottoms, all atypical characteristics for ethnic Japanese) bother me. Technology, particularly vehicles and weapons, are equally fetishized -- this just seems to me a kind of transparent, semi-Freudian transferred penis fetish. The human relationships are caricatures; there's always an overt sense of male dominance except for the occasional archetypal Amazon woman. (This is, incidentally, what probably attracts geeky men who are held in little esteem by women in real life to the genre.)

That said, I have enjoyed a couple anime films that don't fit the problem areas identified above. "My Neighbor Totoro" was great because the animation was smooth and bright, the characters realistic, and the animation was used to create something that wouldn't be possible with live action.

Aside from anime, I also don't really care for a lot of Japanese culture. Their art films are terrible; I can't stand the Japanese "cinema verite" concept where the pacing of the film is slowed down to match real life. I've walked out of Japanese art film festivals because I was falling asleep. Also, so much of Japanese culture seems constructed to denigrate women. Teenage girls are fetishized, selling their underwear to adults, while 30 year old women are considered failures if they haven't found a husband, and sometimes take to wearing little school backpacks and sucking on lollipops to pretend to be younger and make themselves more appealing. In Japanese "adult" films, the women are expected to be crying and feigning pain and resistance, and too often the girls are depicted as being young schoolgirls. I just don't like the vibes this kind of thing projects, and it seems to me fairly common across a wide axis of Japanese culture. Again, men who rarely have power or the eye of women in real life may find a culture where female disempowerment is fetishized appealing.

I'm neutral on Hello Kitty and Sanrio characters.

None of these observations extend to other Asian cultures, which seem to me quite different.
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post #38 of 589
1/25/05 at 8:29am
Grave of the Fireflies is an exemplary display of good anime.
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post #39 of 589
1/25/05 at 10:26am
My other hobby beside listening music & building headphone rigs is watching anime. Ironically, it's easier for me to explain watching anime as hobby than how much my headphone system cost
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post #40 of 589
1/25/05 at 10:42am
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Originally Posted by dhwilkin
I like how anime-hating has gotten to be in vogue these days. Know what I'm saying, now there's a machine that really needs to be raged against.
Ah, young master, now you learn the real truth behind fads. First: all adore something new and crave to be part of it. Then, once it has become established, it becomes uncool to be part of it. This is the way of the world and fads. It always has been, and shall always be. Before you chide those who insult anime, ask yourself, do you wear a leisure suit and listen to disco? Ah, I thought not. Go in peace, Fad-san.
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post #41 of 589
1/25/05 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by saint.panda
Grave of the Fireflies is an exemplary display of good anime.
This movie looked pretty, but was as dull as dishwater. I did REALLY like Princess Monoke - like Kurasowa in crayons.
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post #42 of 589
1/25/05 at 11:27am
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Originally Posted by oneeyedhobbit
With all due respect, I probably hate these, "God DAMN I'm tough, fight me in the real world and I'll take you out to pasture" types much more than I hate obsessed anime-types.
I've rarely ever started a fight that wasn't bound to happen. I'm mainly defensive, I don't go pickng on people or anything. I only said it that way cause these guys looked like they really wanted start s**t with me. I let it go of course, but if they came at me or insulted me (We often in the class together alone cause we get their early), I would've taught them a lesson. And yes, I could kick their ass, without a doubt.

Although, many of the 'I hate fighter" types are much worse IMO, since they talk more s**t (lots and lots) and run when it comes down to the real thing. We all hate somebody in this world, don't we? =)

(I don't mean you btw, just go to a forum regarding anything asian enter., you'll see what I'm talking about)

I am talking from personal experience, not basing everything off useless stuff.
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post #43 of 589
1/25/05 at 12:05pm
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Originally Posted by strohmie
<<the resident Yoko Kanno junkie does a happy dance>>
werd for yoko kanno, i've got the box sex for CB. the OST for ghost in the shell also rocks hardcore.
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post #44 of 589
1/25/05 at 12:05pm
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Originally Posted by Wodgy
I have to say I agree for the most part with Minya. I don't like anime largely because I find it aesthetically unappealing. The choppy animation looks cheap, and the fetishized characters (impossibly large eyes and women with implausibly large breasts and huge, curvy bottoms, all atypical characteristics for ethnic Japanese) bother me. Technology, particularly vehicles and weapons, are equally fetishized -- this just seems to me a kind of transparent, semi-Freudian transferred penis fetish. The human relationships are caricatures; there's always an overt sense of male dominance except for the occasional archetypal Amazon woman. (This is, incidentally, what probably attracts geeky men who are held in little esteem by women in real life to the genre.)
Good post, Wodgy, although I probably have less exposure than you, I completely agree with your description of why you dislike anime. I think you may be right about the Japanese attitude towards women as well.

One thing I've noticed in the bits of anime that I've seen is that there tend to be a large number of characters that look very caucasian (blond hair, blue eyes, etc.), which is interesting considering these programs come from a very homogeneous Asian society. I wonder why this is.
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post #45 of 589
1/25/05 at 12:19pm
I am an unabashed anime fan. From anything Mikimoto, to anything Miyazaki, and even things of recent vintage, like the creator of Cowboy Bebop/Wolf's Rain/Samurai Champloo (and that very cool short in the Animatrix). I've given up justifying it to the wife - I just download a bittorrent every once in a while and watch. Eh, so I'm a geek, what's new?

And btw I agree, the Grados are sorely underrepresented.
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