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Sennheiser RS85 / RS65 / RS120

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hello,

would anyone who owns or has heard any of these let me know their thoughts on their sound quality (or how they compare to each other, in case) ?

Thanks!
post #2 of 15
Only tried the 110 (?) once and although quite acceptable, they don't sound like good senns at all.

I heard some complaints regarding senn's transmitter build quality, in fact two of the 120's transmitter were faulty when I tried them.

So, having liked 271s for a while and heard little complaints on akg system, I went for K506 wireless, mostly due to its 'varimotion' drivers. Had to make special order since nobody stocked them around here. Waited almost 2 months ... only to find out they don't sound like good akgs at all.

However, removing the foam insert helped a lot and now they sound more like 271s - with some hiss getting more noticable. Will try RS65/85 again someday and compare against 25.
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thank you!
I've been hoping to find out a good reasonably priced wireless, and, at the moment, it seems to get more and more a hard task.
I'm very curious about how the senn 85 or 65 must be, on the other side, 'cause they seem almost the only residual option (after the "betrayal" of the lower end senns and of the akgs, apart from that hearo 888 digital maybe, but that's an expensive one... ).
post #4 of 15
HI,

I have used the following wireless headphones:

AKG Hearo 777
Sennhesier RS45
Sennhesier RS120
Panasonic RP-WF910

and i have used the following wired headphones:

Sennheiser 580
Sennheiser HD200
Sennheiser PX100

Here is my verdict:

AKG Hearo 777
- They sound ok, not great, not terrible. Hiss and crackles and pops are a problem. Very muddy sounding, not very loud, and the Dolby Pro Logic effect is rubbish, having used Dolby Headphone, these AKG's just don't cut it for surround sound. Sold them after 1 week.

Panasonic RP-WF910
- These sounded ok on my initial impression, not amazing, or a pair of headphones that will blow you away, but they sound ok. They just don't really have any emotion. They play the song and thats it.
This is a really shame because the wireless system is the best out of all the headphones mentioned. There was no interference at all and hardly any hiss.

Sennhesier RS45
- These sound ok. Bass is ok, but they don't seem very clear. Its like something is between the headphones and your ears. Not very loud, and the battery life isn't very long. Sold them after 2 weeks.

Sennhesier RS120
- My initial impression was, wow. These headphones are really comfortable, go really really loud and battery life (on 2 x AAA's) is about 1 day (seriously). The sound is very open, good, punchy bass, great midrange and good teble.

The more you listen the better they sound. After they have run in the bass sounds much better. And the bass is a good tuneful bass, not a slow, muddy bass.

A good example is the bass notes in the song "New Year" by the Foo Fighters. You can hear everynote. I listened with some Sennhieser PX100 and HD200 and you cannot really hear all the different notes.

I used a program called "Siggen" to test how low these go down too. Well, they go down to about 28hz. Which is quite impressive.

There is a small amount of hiss and you get the odd pop and crackle now and again (but this is only if the volume is really high and there is no music playing).

I think these are the best wireless headphones you can buy at the moment and for £59.99 you cannot go wrong. They look great, sound awesome, and i like them alot.

I think you'll be more than happy with the RS120
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by honglong
HI,
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Sennhesier RS120
- My initial impression was, wow. These headphones are really comfortable, go really really loud and battery life (on 2 x AAA's) is about 1 day (seriously). The sound is very open, good, punchy bass, great midrange and good teble.

The more you listen the better they sound. After they have run in the bass sounds much better. And the bass is a good tuneful bass, not a slow, muddy bass.

A good example is the bass notes in the song "New Year" by the Foo Fighters. You can hear everynote. I listened with some Sennhieser PX100 and HD200 and you cannot really hear all the different notes.

I used a program called "Siggen" to test how low these go down too. Well, they go down to about 28hz. Which is quite impressive.

There is a small amount of hiss and you get the odd pop and crackle now and again (but this is only if the volume is really high and there is no music playing).

I think these are the best wireless headphones you can buy at the moment and for £59.99 you cannot go wrong. They look great, sound awesome, and i like them alot.

I think you'll be more than happy with the RS120
Thank you! Now, this is really sweet news.

They looked so promising, but... I had myself tried a Senn RS40 some time ago and saying I wasn't impressed would be an euphemism - but the sound seemed balanced, and the limits seemed to lie mostly in the transmitter/receiver quality.
If these have improved on that, while being cheaper, then how can I resist?
They must be actually better than the RS110, which Nak Man didn't like so much.

And here they are 79€, not bad...
post #6 of 15
We got my mom the RS120's for Christmas and I listened briefly and was greatly impressed. Hiss? There's no hiss whatsoever as long as the tuning is set right (but maybe this is because I listen at low levels). The sound was amazingly dynamic considering they're wireless. Bass was a little overblown, mids were lacking, and high-end details were also, but overall the sound was decent! You can tell it's wireless, though, the overall frequency spectrum comes through fine, but it feels thin, like there's something missing. It's not the same as when you don't have enough bass or mids or something, it feels like overall something is missing and I guess the wireless thing accounts for this. It just simply can't transmit the detail direct electrical currents can.

Crazy awesome reception. I can go anywhere in my house without any loss of transmission other than the occasional very subtle crackle or something as a move between rooms. The phones stay on quite well, and are very comfy. They're a little on the big side but don't feel as big as they are.

To top it off, they run on NiMH AA's I think, which are replaceable, and it comes with a cool docking station that charges the phones via two metal plates integrated into the headband!

I am quite impressed with these and wholeheartedly recommend them.
post #7 of 15
MD1032: I agree with you about the RS120 sounding thin, but they improve sooo much after they are run in. Bass is stronger, treble is not so bright.

My advice if you do get some RS120 is to run them in for a day or two and then they will sound better.

Blow the other wireless headphones out of the water!
post #8 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavySoul
They must be actually better than the RS110, which Nak Man didn't like so much.
May be more a case of high expectations =) ... I was looking for wireless with 580 like sound.

Anyway, make sure the transmitter is guaranteed for some period.
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MD1032
The sound was amazingly dynamic considering they're wireless. Bass was a little overblown, mids were lacking, and high-end details were also, but overall the sound was decent!
Hmmm, this is partly encouraging and partly not to me.
I might have been holding a bit too high expectations, like Nak Man said for himself, on them;
I have to think about it a little more, considering the (wired) alternatives, before I decide to walk the oblique path of wireless.
post #10 of 15
I don't think the Bass was overblown at all, its actually quite taut and tunefull and the midrange and treble is excellent for what they are.

They do initial sound a little bright when first used, but run in for a day or two and the bass becomes alot more powerful and the treble becomes less bright. They are quite revealing too, for example, you can hear sounds that don't even register on other headphones or speakers.

Great headphones and for £59.99 a bargain.

If your in the UK, buy a pair from Argos and if you don't like them, take them back for a refund. You have a 14 day money back garantee.
post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by honglong
If your in the UK, buy a pair from Argos and if you don't like them, take them back for a refund. You have a 14 day money back garantee.
No, not from the UK, but still Europe ... thank you for the compliment (besides for the information), I didn't expect that my English could bestow me the honour of being mistaken for somebody from the UK.
Ok, I shall stop here, this is silly vanity, and mostly unfounded in fact.
Still, wow!

I know about Argos anyway, from my last stay in London; ah, this makes nostalgia arise in me...

Anyway, I think I can still manage to buy them where I'm sure I'm allowed to return them.
post #12 of 15
I bought a pair of Senn RS120 last week, and while the sound was good enough (though it did sound like there was a filter between me and the sound source, and the bass was a bit overblown) there was to much radio noise for me. I returned them to the store today and got a pair of HD 555 instead plus an extension cord. It sounds a lot better, but now I hear some noise which I think comes from the receiver when there's no other sounds instead. There's always something...
post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
Ah yes, there's always something wrong.
So we'd better just not care for that ultra-expensive equipment you hear about here around, perfection is purely chimerical .
Just a light-hearted opinion from another newbie of this forum .

And thank you for the useful information!
Actually an HD555 was my first idea.
Better stuck with it. ( )
post #14 of 15

I also get what sounds like a persistent hiss sometimes. I'm never sure if it's my cell phone or some other kind of interference (Wifi, etc.).

post #15 of 15

+1 on hardkonelius' issue. I've tried turning on the microwave to see if it's consistent with that but no dice.

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