I concur - it's good for the money, but they stick out quite a bit. What tips do you use? I think they do a heck of a job with my ipod vid w/rockbox and flac files. Just a bit of tweaking with the eq and they do quite well. Definitely not a comfortable iem for long listening sessions or lying on your side, though. At least they don't get in the way when I have my helmet on...

Thx for ur reply and concern , BTW im using the default tips , and yes i love how this iem sounds , after i've experienced alot of other kinds/brands .