Well, the measurements I don't really trust to be honest...either that or they're being misinterpreted. The LCD2 looks like it has deeper extension than the HE6 at first glance on the graphs (Innerfidelity), but the HE6 had way more force down low. Definitely the deepest most speaker-like bass I've heard from a headphone. The LCD2 was nothing in comparison. The difference wasn't subtle.
The HE6 also scale much higher than the LCD2. If we're using these same...
Yea. There are some things that seem pretty clear to me from our comparisons to the same reference in the PWD MK2 (2.2.0). The M7 has more detail, focus and speed but less bass and perhaps a smaller soundstage than the Ref7.1. The Ref7.1 very clearly had more bass and a much larger soundstage than the PWD. But to be honest, it was the neutrality that I felt was most important. The PWD MK2 got a little shouty with the prominent, liquid mids at higher volumes with some...
Prep thanks for the excellent comparison. Very informative.
You already know where I stand. The Ref7.1, though not quite as detailed and super-focused as the PWD MK2 (2.2.0), I thought was better overall, especially wrt soundstage, neutrality and bass weight.
A post on this page makes it clear I don't have the M7, so I can't make any comparisons with the Ref7.1. I owned the PWD MK2 and Ref7.1 together for quite a while. The M7 sound I've gathered from others' comparisons to the Ref7.1 and PWD MK2.
I agree ^. But, just to clarify. IME, the Peak/Volcano easily had less bass (esp the lowest octaves) than the Beta22. I also think the HE6, LCD2 and by extension, LCD3, have more bass than the HD800. But, I've never found the Senns lacking and they remain my favourite headphones.
The 2.2.0 firmware PWD MK2 has less bass than the 2.0.2.
The M7 has around the same bass quantity as the PWD 2.2.0.
The M7 has less bass than the Ref7.1.
The Ref7.1 has more bass than both the M7 and PWD 2.2.0.
I like the Ref7.1 more than the PWD MK2 2.2.0, though the latter does some things better like rendering microdetail and imaging. The Ref7.1 has a larger soundstage/larger sound, more bass, more neutral tone and more instrument separation.
I wrote some stuff and so did preproman. We both had the PWD MK2 but with different firmwares (mine was the one shipping now 2.2.0, his is the previous version 2.0.2). The firmwares change the sound noticeably. Anyways, just go through my previous posts (not necessarily in this thread). You can click the username and browse posts, I don't have time to search for them. Same for prep.