I rather enjoy progressive/technical type metal more, surely. But I really don't put my 009's in a bubble. For example, play, say, That'll indeed give you whatever type of physical feedback you think is missing. Very much visceral. Sometimes it's simply about source material.To me, it's a bunch of bologna, all types of misconceptions. I also get that you've heard these phones - just live with 'em a little longer to discover their true limits.