I was disappointed with the Verb. I told the LH crew my initial impressions and I guess even enthusiasts like they are cannot make everything work. I have a pair that I do use. They are fine for Audio books and for making phone calls. Music, not so much. There is no midrange. The finals are the same as the prototype I received. For the $39 backer price they are fine. I would not spend $129 or whatever the final retail is going to be.