They aren't non-existent in the sub bass but their subbass isn't really prominent, they start to roll off in the mid bass downwards to my ears. It's still there but a bit polite. I also find them more sensitive to position, if you don't get a good seal, you'll lose subbass fast. But yeah if you like deep bass, these wouldn't be my first choice.
12/27/14 at 7:23pm