I agree with you on this one, they are not headphones that wow you on the first listen, they take time to grown on you. They don't have anything that jumps out and amazes you at first listen. But over time you learn to appreciate them, and understand that they are very smooth and refined, very enjoyable to listen to. I really enjoy my pair. I don't agree with all the people with negative comments on these, but then again sound is very subjective.