No. He meant what he said in his post, which was very clear. If you try to summarize it by saying something else, of course it will not work. I hate when people do that. What he said, quite explicitely:Wagnus does not add SQ to Hugo, balances the sound when he feels it is too bright With certain iems, M performs as well as Hugo + Wagnus, meaning that M is sufficient to maximize the potential of these iems.