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No, I have no interest at all (thank God for my pocket!) in amps. But I don't see how the sound could be improved unless the midrange was less aggressive - and I don't think an amp can take care of that. I guess if they're used with a crappy generic player, they might benefit from an amp (didn't you say the bass was not nearly as good on your sprint touch?) - but they don't need amping with the Zune, not to my ears anyway.
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I have tried with my Rudistor RPX-33 (a high end amp) -- and the sound is greater! Perhaps not day and night difference but certainly late breakfast to lunch difference.
Still I could live without an amp because the real reason I bought the phones was for portability. And the sound is still really good.
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I guess it's not a huge problem as it's not evident on all music - just some. And then I just turn it down to tame the vocals. That's probably the only problem I'm experiencing at the moment and as the Zune has no EQ, I can't do anything about it. Other than that - they're very impressive, but I would expect them to be at that price!
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Re: Midrange-- My experience with midrange screaming is with the Grados. So perhaps I have more tolerance. I will say there is one song that made me through my Grados off my head b/c it felt like the woman vocalist was screaming. I will listen to this song with the IMAGEs tonight and report back.
In terms of overall soundstage-- no they are no where near the 701s or the CD3000s but wide or wider than the W11JPNs-- which is wider than most closed headphones. Hmmm... Perhaps this is a weakness. I will have to check it out. This is making me think. Can't wait to listen. Keep in mind I was so overwhelmed by the "fun" factor that I did not really listen listen (if you will).
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I just received a notice from Klipsch that the Custom 3's are now available. I ordered a pair. Hopefully they come soon (before my 30 day return with Amazon on the IMAGE) so I can determine if the SQ is better enough to offset any lost comfort.
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Thank you. I am looking forward to being in the family/club.
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But it not bad to me or problematic. Who knows perhaps the Custom 3s improve on everything.
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More people would look in headphones.
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I'm still forming an opinion on mine. There's a lot of good with them but I'm finding the treble on up to be harsh and it's pretty distracting. It's especially noticeable on heavily vocal music, for example I really don't like the way Sarah McLachlan's and her backup Camille's voices sound on them. I'm trying some different tips so we'll see.
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I received my Custom 3s so I now have both the Image and the Custom 3s.
But all is not well in the land. I cannot get a tight, comfortable seal for the Custom 3s. There is never enough bass -- actually very little so I assume it is the seal but I am unable using any of the tips-- even used the Image tips to get a seal. But to no avail. I imagine the Custom 3s could sound great because the treble is more open than on the Images. But without the bass they are lean-- not enough fun to make it worthwhile. I checked the Klipsch site for fit/seal instructions-- saw videos and tried everything but nothing has worked. I put the Images in instant seal-- can even play around with the seal to increase, decrease bass and SQ. So I think the Images are standing and the Custom 3s are going back to Klipsch.
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