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Old 08-22-2007, 07:02 PM   #61 (permalink)
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wow, and the br fanboys say that hd-dvd guys are desperate

next they will announce that buying an hd-dvd is supporting terrorism!!! lol
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"The director behind such films as 'Bad Boys', 'Pearl Harbor', and the recent 'Transformers' movie is upset by Paramount's decision to drop support for Blu-ray. On a post on his personal web forum entitled, "Paramount pisses me off!", Michael Bay says, "I want people to see my movies in the best formats possible. For them to deny people who have Blu-ray sucks! They were progressive by having two formats. No Transformers 2 for me!""

Thanks Paramount...
Well, now he's saying. "I just drank kool-aid. blah blah blah... Back to transformer 2."
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Man that sux for both blue ray and HD DVD. Thanks for the article.
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:56 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Ok you heard him everybody. Stay Tru Blu!
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That article is fanboyism at its most extreme.
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wow, and the br fanboys say that hd-dvd guys are desperate
I think we just found out who the real fanboys are in this thread.

Me thinks neither of the formats has to worry too much about you guys. Sounds like these lovable, good natured corporations have you in their pocket.

I'm a fanboy without a doubt. At first, I was an HD-DVD fanboy. Then things didn't look so hot on that side, so I turned into a Blu-Ray fanboy.

With this latest news, me thinks it's time to become a universal player fanboy.

I was thinking of something else. Let's say someone's been thinking of buying a HD player last July. They just saw and loved Transformers. They decide on a Blu-Ray deck thinking Transformers will be out around Christmas for their chosen format along with Spiderman 3. Yeah, this guy likes bad movies.

Not now. Paramount just said screw you to those people. Michael Bay has a point.
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I haven't really picked a winner myself. Once I moved to DVD on a 22-inch monitor (office doubles as a personal entertainment center) I stopped thinking about picture quality. I care more about perfection in sound, I suppose.

I'm just wondering whether the Sony/Philips Blu-Ray and Toshiba HD-DVD camps are failing to predict what consumers will want and have access to in several years. When Sony came out with the MiniDisc, I was ready for it to be the next big thing. Then along came the MP3 player and the MiniDisc flopped. I think people hated VHS and cassettes for a long time before their replacements were unleashed on us. We were so sick of what we had that when a sensible format came along we all jumped on it. Is anyone sick of DVD? Do either of the new HD formats really offer anything so completely new that everyone will have to have one? What came after the DVD that excited people? The free illegal download. That one was so exciting that people didn't care about the terrible picture quality or the small size. Getting it instantly, getting it early, and getting it without a sense of being ripped off were some pretty appealing factors. I'm really not sure what's around the corner, but when it comes to Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, may the one with less of an Inquisitional take on DRM win.

I will go on record as saying that BD-ROM sounds awfully stupid. Also, lack of backwards compatibility seems like a big mistake to me.
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Gee, I wonder when Sony will release a firmware update that will enable HD-DVD playback on the PS3??
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What "backwards" compatibility are you referring to?
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It is interesting......but I think this pretty much seals both Blu-Ray and HD DVD's death. Unless there's going to be a difference in last quarter sales, neither format really seems to be moving full steam in making a dent with DVD sales. Maybe one of these formats can stay afloat long enough to find lucrative sales. Time will only tell
from the beginning i've been saying that the real winner in the HDDVD/BLURAY format war would be DVD; they just have a product that most people don't want; they're not willing to pay for it, they don't have hdtv's, they just don't care; neither of these formats will succeed, don't "invest" thinking one of them will replace dvd; it isn't going to happen; DVD will be the last great video disc before downloadable-EVERYTHING, bluray and hddvd might be fun for now, but they won't last, no way
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Nobody understands until they come see my 60" SXRD in action
you're missing the point; of course it looks good; it's just too damn EXPENSIVE; the average headfi-er or AVS-er has a significantly higher than average income, i have no doubt; trying to decipher trends by catching the vibe on a geek website is a quick way to come up with a completely incorrect assessment of the level of interest in the culture at large

DVD changed things; you could ship it easily; no rewinding, chapters, it's small, and heck it EVEN looks better, special features, all that ****

br and hddvd do one thing and that is increased REZ and sound quality; it might be enough for us technophiles but it's not nearly enough for most people, and often they just can't come close to affording it

the thoughts on cable-on-demand and the like are where the money is it; whether it's from a cable provider, or internet streaming, or whatever, that's where we're heading; all we need is a bit faster download speeds and some clever, universally intuitive delivery mechanism; apple, are you listening? (no you're not with your silly little ipod video downloads)

who wants to go out and rent a movie? not me; who wants to get it shipped? no way; who wants it RIGHT ****ING NOW ? yes, there ya go; now now now, intuitive, easy, affordable, fast streaming; xbox-video, comcast, whatever; we really do need a jump in bandwidth though to make it really sing, but i don't think hddvd/br will fill the gap untill we have the speed we really need, it'll be the good ole dvd; not that both formats will die entirely, lots of people will dig them, but not nearly enough, and they'll fight a losing battle along with the great fallen god called SONY

anyway, i'm out, RIP silly HD formats
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you're missing the point; of course it looks good; it's just too damn EXPENSIVE; the average headfi-er or AVS-er has a significantly higher than average income, i have no doubt; trying to decipher trends by catching the vibe on a geek website is a quick way to come up with a completely incorrect assessment of the level of interest in the culture at large

DVD changed things; you could ship it easily; no rewinding, chapters, it's small, and heck it EVEN looks better, special features, all that ****

br and hddvd do one thing and that is increased REZ and sound quality; it might be enough for us technophiles but it's not nearly enough for most people, and often they just can't come close to affording it

the thoughts on cable-on-demand and the like are where the money is it; whether it's from a cable provider, or internet streaming, or whatever, that's where we're heading; all we need is a bit faster download speeds and some clever, universally intuitive delivery mechanism; apple, are you listening? (no you're not with your silly little ipod video downloads)

who wants to go out and rent a movie? not me; who wants to get it shipped? no way; who wants it RIGHT ****ING NOW ? yes, there ya go; now now now, intuitive, easy, affordable, fast streaming; xbox-video, comcast, whatever; we really do need a jump in bandwidth though to make it really sing, but i don't think hddvd/br will fill the gap untill we have the speed we really need, it'll be the good ole dvd; not that both formats will die entirely, lots of people will dig them, but not nearly enough, and they'll fight a losing battle along with the great fallen god called SONY

anyway, i'm out, RIP silly HD formats
Ahem, that's two things.

You may very well be right. Some people like to have "something" to hold in their hand. Once that one single emotional tie is gone, woah, boy howdy, get out of the way and watch the downloads fly. Comcast already provides HD on demand, which works quite well, and it will only get better. Blu-ray at 1080p still looks better than cable's 1080i but for many programs, there is no obvious difference in PQ.
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