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Moderator: Headphoneus Supremus: Insulting his K-1000's would begin the Battle of Karthage
Originally Posted by Redo
You can upconvert all day long until the cows come home, there's no substitute for a 1920x1080 native source.
Absolutely right!
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Moderator: Headphoneus Supremus: Insulting his K-1000's would begin the Battle of Karthage
Originally Posted by roadtonowhere08
...the movie studios are taking kickbacks to release on one or the other format. They are really shooting themselves in the foot; taking what would be a great advance in home theater and music fidelity and totally crapping on it.
Boy that sure is true. The problem is that even though the studio and JVC couldn't care less about the welfare of the consumer, this bribery action probably will not create any negative consequences for the studio or JVC.
Sony isn't any better, so I'm not just throwing rocks at Paramount and JVC.
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"The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity, and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because philosophy is an exalted activity, will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water." --John W. Gardner
Strangely it seems like it's only a short term solution -- it's like they get a big check waved in front of them and are gambling that it will make up for lost sales/investment into the format.
Strangely it seems like it's only a short term solution -- it's like they get a big check waved in front of them and are gambling that it will make up for lost sales/investment into the format.
Not only that, but it's probably penny-wise, pound-foolish. Continued uncertainty over the format war slows consumer adoption and purchases of both formats. Grab the kickback, lose broader sales for both formats.
The studios would be making money hand over fist right now selling titles if they had only agreed on a single format years ago instead of this ridiculous format war.
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This is another obvious reason why Blu-Ray should win the battle.
I don't own any formats, yet. But I like the way Toshiba's handling things over cheaper production costs and acquiring competitive movie titles. Their only weakness is the storage and that's the only thing BR fans go after HD-DVD, but just because BR has more capacity doesn't mean it should win. On dual-layerd HD-DVD, you can store up to 8 hours of all high-def contents. Now, that's more than enough for any studios to put their stuffs in. If they run out of 30G, they can simply throw in an extra disc. Now, that's too much. So, the storage theory doesn't make it disputable.
Moderator: Headphoneus Supremus: Insulting his K-1000's would begin the Battle of Karthage
Originally Posted by analogbox
I don't own any formats, yet. But I like the way Toshiba's handling things over cheaper production costs and acquiring competitive movie titles. Their only weakness is the storage and that's the only thing BR fans go after HD-DVD, but just because BR has more capacity doesn't mean it should win. On dual-layerd HD-DVD, you can store up to 8 hours of all high-def contents. Now, that's more than enough for any studios to put their stuffs in. If they run out of 30G, they can simply throw in an extra disc. Now, that's too much. So, the storage theory doesn't make it disputable.
The idea is that BD is useful for data storage AND as a distribution media for the latest box office hit. One format and one standard for both uses. That's pretty compelling.
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"In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists." Eric Hoffer
"The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity, and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because philosophy is an exalted activity, will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water." --John W. Gardner
I don't like the idea of more than two layers. Way too much that can happen with a bad batch of glue... for all of you who remember early DVD peeling. At the rate they press those things, forget it. Might as well go holographic and go nuts for the funding on a format that will have some SERIOUS legs.
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This is bad news, BluRay is actually the superior format, plus people buy blu ray players, take the blue diode and make a wickedly expensive blue laser pointer with it.
I really hope blu ray wins...
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The idea is that BD is useful for data storage AND as a distribution media for the latest box office hit. One format and one standard for both uses. That's pretty compelling.
Portable media for data storage is a doomed market to begin with. Now days, we can buy hard drives that have hundreds of giga bytes for not much money. Not only that, we have all kinds of flash memory medias that just doubles the storage every year. It's been YEARS since I've last backed up my data on a CD. So, the data storage, too, doesn't win the argument.
The idea is that BD is useful for data storage AND as a distribution media for the latest box office hit. One format and one standard for both uses. That's pretty compelling.
At the prices that BD-R discs are going for, they're not a compelling argument at all. 500 GB hard drives are ~ $100. The same space in BD-R is $220 at 25 GB/disc and $11/disc.
Sure, prices will go down, but just look at where DVD-R DL is now. After god knows how long on the market, they're still $2/disc, which would run ~ $120. Blu-ray may reach that eventually, but won't go lower without Chinese manufacturing. Good luck with that in the near term.
Given the current hard drive cost advantage, disc based storage with Blu-Ray or HD-DVD is going to be a nonstarter.
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