The NIKON Thread (Talk About Nikon Stuff here)

[Mrvile]

Originally Posted by skyline889

What do you Nikon experts think of the 12-24 Tokina? I've been looking through my old shots and most of them were shot at wide angle, so I don't think I would make proper use of the 18-200 range of the 18-200vr. Any troubles with the lens? Any good places to buy it new or used? Thanks for the help!

I owned the Tokina 12-24 for Canon for a while. It is a very nice lens...it's sharp, consistant, fast f/4 aperture, and it's distortion is reasonable. For UWA lenses, you're always going to have some level of barrel distortion, and the Tokina's isn't any worse than the Nikon 12-24, Canon 10-22, or Sigma 10-20. I wouldn't worry too much about the distortion.

In the end I traded the Tokina 12-24 for a Sigma 10-20 because 10mm is actually considerably wider than 12mm. Just something to keep in mind.

[WhatMACHI]

I had a look today at Digital City because my parents wanted me to get a warranty (super safe people) and it turns out that they only had ONE D50 left which was their Demo model...they said they didnt ever demo it, but yes they demo'd it to me a few times before they knew i was gona buy, so im geussing they demo'd it to other people, also had a set of scratches on one corner from a drop....they said they scratched it putting it in on the glass (bahahah what an excuse).

So i geuss ill just convince my parents that its probably a better idea to order from B&H, so im gona have to go get some scans of my credit card before i can make the order T_T

Might get the order in tomorow afternoon if i can, then im gona have to wait T_T damit

Originally Posted by stevesurf

Nice setup; you'll have a great time with them. There's nothing like opening up a new gold box...

Yup, was great! But after a few minutes of zooming in and out with nothing i decided lenses are no fun with out a camera hahaha

[mbriant]

Perhaps this has already been mentioned, but have you checked e-bay? There's lots of them (brand new) there, some with and some without lenses. You can always buy a Mack extended warranty as well.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Nikon-D50-Di...QQcmdZViewItem

EDIT: Never mind. I just checked B&H's price.

[dj_mocok]

Originally Posted by WhatMACHI

I had a look today at Digital City because my parents wanted me to get a warranty (super safe people) and it turns out that they only had ONE D50 left which was their Demo model...they said they didnt ever demo it, but yes they demo'd it to me a few times before they knew i was gona buy, so im geussing they demo'd it to other people, also had a set of scratches on one corner from a drop....they said they scratched it putting it in on the glass (bahahah what an excuse).

So i geuss ill just convince my parents that its probably a better idea to order from B&H, so im gona have to go get some scans of my credit card before i can make the order T_T

Might get the order in tomorow afternoon if i can, then im gona have to wait T_T damit



Yup, was great! But after a few minutes of zooming in and out with nothing i decided lenses are no fun with out a camera hahaha

No way, I'm not gonna get a demo one which had been dropped before.
If you really wanna be safe at this stage, I think the other option is to go for a brand new D70s from European Cameras, they are not gray market products and have a full Australian warranty. But looks like you're pretty set with D50 already, then probably B&H is your best bet then.

[WhatMACHI]

Well im not gona ge tthe demo model, Im hoping they can find another D50 in one of their other stores, or ill just order from B&H. Had a muck around with my friends D80 tonight, a bit of a change from the Nikon EM ive been using the past few weeks haha :P

[stevesurf]

Originally Posted by nogrot

The Nikkor and Tokina are both DX-style lenses, so the ability to use them on FF bodies is unproven as of yet.

From byThom on the 12 ~ 24:

Drawbacks
Lottery Winner Price. Not a professional grade build, and an f/4 aperture, so why the over US$1000 cost?
It's Bigger and Heavier than you'll Expect. If you thought a lens designed to cover a smaller sensor size would be smaller, you'll be surprised. This thing takes 77mm filters!
12mm Performance could be better. While good, the performance at 12mm isn't up to the levels produced at 24mm.

Positives
Cut Yourself Sharp. At 24mm, this is the only lens you'd ever need (as long as the f/4 maximum aperture didn't get in your way). Even at its weakest focal length, 12mm, it produces contrasty and sharp results, albeit with a touch of chromatic aberration.

Works on 35mm. Yep, you can use it as an 18-24mm zoom on your full frame or 35mm bodies, though almost any filter will vignette at 18mm.

Originally Posted by nogrot

The Sigma is a FF lens and can be used with film bodies.

Sigma 10 ~20

* Vignetting will occur if the lens is used with digital cameras with image sensors larger than APS-C size or 35mm SLR cameras

Originally Posted by nogrot

My rectilinear Nikkor 14mm f/2.8 is pretty awesome, though I don't use it that often. Most of the time I find the 10.5 Fisheye to be more fun.

The 14 is an amazing lens; I had to sell it to fund the 17 ~ 35! That huge front element got me some amazing shots, but I was always worried about it scratching!

[perplex]

Originally Posted by mbriant

Perhaps this has already been mentioned, but have you checked e-bay? There's lots of them (brand new) there, some with and some without lenses. You can always buy a Mack extended warranty as well.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Nikon-D50-Di...QQcmdZViewItem

EDIT: Never mind. I just checked B&H's price.

Hi, I'm interested in knowing what your lens collection is. I just know you have a D2h which you regret overpaying for .

[WhatMACHI]

....-_-'' wow the Camera god really loves me so much that hes throwing obstacles in my way left right and center. Heres a reply from B&H when i asked them about sending to Australia.

Due to an agreement with Nikon USA, we can not ship or export Nikon DSLR's outside the United States.

B+H Is happy to ship overseas including APO Military addresses. All international shipments comply with U.S. Customs regulations, which include a valid, accurate, fully detailed commercial invoice & proper export documentation. Modification of the commercial invoice for tax savings purposes is a violation of US Customs Law. All transactions are in US dollars. We can not provide currency conversions. All of our shipments are insured against Loss and Damage.

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Ok, i might send to a relo in California, then get them to send it here which would take AGES, or i can just hope digital city found a NEW D50 in one of their other stores (slim chance) or i could be real cheeky and ask my friend to get D80/D70s from HK for me who is coming back in the next week or so (id rather go D80 since its much newer than the D70s but, meh, ill see how it goes)

[skyline889]

Originally Posted by Mrvile

I owned the Tokina 12-24 for Canon for a while. It is a very nice lens...it's sharp, consistant, fast f/4 aperture, and it's distortion is reasonable. For UWA lenses, you're always going to have some level of barrel distortion, and the Tokina's isn't any worse than the Nikon 12-24, Canon 10-22, or Sigma 10-20. I wouldn't worry too much about the distortion.

In the end I traded the Tokina 12-24 for a Sigma 10-20 because 10mm is actually considerably wider than 12mm. Just something to keep in mind.

Thanks for your help Stevesurf and Mrvile, I think I will be saving up for this lens!

[WhatMACHI]

Yay i found a store in Sydney with the D50 in stock, so my dad being the warranty person he is jumped for it much more so than the D80 being bought overseas. Hopefully we'll be going in tomorrow to get it

Also im just curious, what kind of UV lenses should i look at (that screws into the end of the lens) im not too worried about UV and whatnot, im more concerned that this will protect the end of the lens from dust, statches or accidental drops.

So tomorrow im gona grab
D50 Body
A couple UV lenses (or whatever little screens you guys recommend)
And a Bag