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Old 07-01-2008, 07:49 PM   #1531 (permalink)
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Haha, I laugh at all the naysayers who said Nikon would not release a D300 type Full Frame camera!

Better sell those DX lenses, and quick!
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Haha, I laugh at all the naysayers who said Nikon would not release a D300 type Full Frame camera!

Better sell those DX lenses, and quick!
DX is not dead, nor will it be dead for quite some time. Nikon has two full frame bodies in its lineup currently, and both cost about $3000 or greater; I'll presume the DX format to be dying once a D80 equivalent carries an FX sensor and a sub $1000 price tag.
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Old 07-01-2008, 09:56 PM   #1533 (permalink)
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DX is not dead, nor will it be dead for quite some time. Nikon has two full frame lenses in its lineup currently, and both cost about $3000 or greater; I'll presume the DX format to be dying once a D80 equivalent carries an FX sensor and a sub $1000 price tag.
ah, I say it's dead. But then again, I have a forward thinking attitude.
I know I personally would not buy another DX lens.
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Nikon has two full frame lenses in its lineup currently, and both cost about $3000 or greater;
Actually, I think they have over 25 full frame lenses still being made new. I personally have at least 6 myself.
I think they currently have about 45 FF lenses.
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Actually, I think they have over 25 full frame lenses still being made new. I personally have at least 6 myself.
I think they currently have about 45 FF lenses.
i think that number gets higher if you count the older ai and pre-ai lenses.

anyhow, i don't think that any of us were saying that there won't ever be a FX sensor in a Dx00 body. there are a lot of cost advantages to the DX sensor that Nikon can't ignore especially when the amateur/enthusiast market is such a large part of their bottom line. it's not something a company that is trying to make a profit can ignore.
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Actually, I think they have over 25 full frame lenses still being made new. I personally have at least 6 myself.
I think they currently have about 45 FF lenses.
I was thinking of a 24-70 f/2.8 on eBay when I wrote that. I meant that Nikon only has two full frame bodies, each costing greater than $3K. Nice catch, though.
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I was thinking of a 24-70 f/2.8 on eBay when I wrote that. I meant that Nikon only has two full frame bodies, each costing greater than $3K. Nice catch, though.
Ah, ok, that makes more sense now. ^_^
Perhaps within 1 or 2 more generations we will have 800$ FX bodies.
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Well, the professional sector is clearly going back to full frame...it is what pros have wanted since the beginning -- to have their lenses act like they did in the film era (which was not that long ago for many of them). In general bigger sensors have better signal to noise ratios, more light gathering ability, and are more forgiving of lens performance. That said, I don't see DX going anywhere any time soon. Nikon and Canon have put lots of money into designing and building DX bodies and lenses, and it would not make sense to just dump them when they are clearly still being bought.

I must say I am very surprised by the D700 though. It does not seem to fit to me. Why make a camera that is so close to the D3 and D300 without replacing either? It really is the unholy spawn of the D3 and the D300...the D3 sensor in the D300 body. It would seem to severely undercut the sales of both the D3 and the D300...
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They needed a competitor for the Canon 5D. The D3 is going to suffer sales loss a lot more than the D300 will.

I am very tempted by the D700. Although, I am more tempted by the impending price price plummet for D200's and D300's.

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Canon's had this type of a market segment now for a few years. Pro-sumer, pro-sumer FF, professional.

I assume Canon will release their new 5D soon, and so the prices will be competitive.

I trust Nikon knows what they are doing. I also feel they are progressing to a better format, even if it means their DX lenses will go obsolete. Nikon is a camera company, and the reason you buy either a Nikon or a Canon is for nice image quality and optics.

It's unfortunate they spent so much effort developing their DX lenses to ditch them after only 4-5 years, but in the end the only way for Nikon to stay competitive is to develop cameras that will take the best pictures within their market segment. They can not afford to stand still and stagnate with their DX line and let canon move ahead by implementing FF in all of their bodies.

It's evolution. To remain the same requires constant change in business. To stagnate while others progress is to admit defeat. And I don't expect Canon to stand still!
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