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warpdriver · 02-06-2006, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by kwkarth

My only criticism is that since it has only one brightness level, it gets very hot after about 15 minutes of run time.

I plan to get a two stage tailcap for the L4 (if I ever get my RMA back)....and then it will be really nice as a general purpose light for indoors and walking around.

I like the fact I can mix and match the E1L,L4,KL4,KL1 bodies. It's like flashlight Lego.

Jahn · 02-06-2006, 07:10 PM

I've carried a flashlight with me for several months now - usage? Zero. I think I'll just leave it at home now.

warpdriver · 02-06-2006, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Jahn

I've carried a flashlight with me for several months now - usage? Zero. I think I'll just leave it at home now.

Really? I always have a need for some extra light. I use a keychain light as a minimum.

stevesurf · 02-07-2006, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by Jahn

I've carried a flashlight with me for several months now - usage? Zero. I think I'll just leave it at home now.

I never knew what was hanging out under my car seat, which basically eats spare change, pens, CO2 cartridges for the bike, remote controls, spare catnip and even an EZPass tag! I wouldn't have been able to find all this great stuff if I didn't have my Surefire light with me.

So another use is to temp. immobilize a potential mugger with a blinding light, to give you an extra few secs to run away or grap the pepper spray. There are pocket lights so bright they become a type of non-contact weapon.

In any case, you never know when the lights are going to go out; once I was on Metro North, the train was stuck in a tunnel and lost power. One little boy was terrified. I whipped out my mini mag at the time and all he could do was just stay near the light and feel a lot safer

BlindTiger · 02-07-2006, 12:56 AM

Now that it's winter, I carry a keychain light and a SF on my belt.
Have not been used at all. C'mon there's so much light pollution in an urban environment even in a black out, you could see with all the emergency lights going on. Not to mention cars everywhere.
For you power outage prone or outdated power grid system members it's different.
I also believe the use as a blinding device is over rated. A crack junkie would just put his hand over his eyes and bum rush you.
But what do I know, I'm the type of guy who likes my hotel room to have no windows and have all the lights out.

stevesurf · 02-07-2006, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by BlindTiger

I also believe the use as a blinding device is over rated.

I actually was skeptical, until I attended Surefire's Anti-Terrorist Symposiums and saw a few takedowns and the "blinding light" technique used by many law enforcement professionals today, right in front of me. If you act quickly, a few seconds is all you need to be defensive or offensive. SF's got some very good training seminars indeed.

BlindTiger · 02-07-2006, 01:31 AM

Well the law enforcement industry are Surefire's major client. and they treat them well, same with the military.
No knock on Surefire, they invented the tactical light but they cater to a very specific customer, not your drive by gangbanger.
I'm just not 100 percent on the flashlight as "weapon" case.

warpdriver · 02-07-2006, 06:21 PM

One has to admit, the whole thing about flashlights being "tactical" is a great piece of marketing. Sure, there are tactical uses, and flashlights are useful tools for people that need special purpose lighting, but most people are better off using common sense defensive techniques rather than rely on flashlights being defensive weapons.

boodi · 02-07-2006, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by gsferrari

This is great news!!

I vow to join all the absurd forums out there

Flashlights? What next?

ahah
my thoughts exactly

Jahn · 02-07-2006, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by stevesurf

I never knew what was hanging out under my car seat, which basically eats spare change, pens, CO2 cartridges for the bike, remote controls, spare catnip and even an EZPass tag! I wouldn't have been able to find all this great stuff if I didn't have my Surefire light with me.

So another use is to temp. immobilize a potential mugger with a blinding light, to give you an extra few secs to run away or grap the pepper spray. There are pocket lights so bright they become a type of non-contact weapon.

In any case, you never know when the lights are going to go out; once I was on Metro North, the train was stuck in a tunnel and lost power. One little boy was terrified. I whipped out my mini mag at the time and all he could do was just stay near the light and feel a lot safer

doh good point. i had no idea i actually carry another form of "flashlight" on me - the superbright LED on my keychain given out at the office in case firefighters have to find you in the dark - not much help to me if i need to navigate down the stairs, but apparently this thing can shine through a good amount of darkness as a beacon, even underwater. i forgot it was on my chain! so yep i guess i still have one on me at all times.