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LOL, I'm afraid I'm going to have to convert to the ways of expensive flashlights.
Believe it or not, it was started by a mandate from my wife for a small, more powerful flashlight. She wants it for when walking the dog at night. Little keychain LED flashlight is not cutting it, and carrying around a 3D Maglight is just stupid.
So, I browsed the CandlePower forums and came across the Fenix L1P and L2P. Along with the Miller Modded ones.
Is the L1P a decent torch? It looks small enough to have approval from the wife. (and the budget.)
While Petery83 showed me his Surefire A2 Aviator? (I think that's what it was), holy crap that thing was bright in incandescent mode. I really want one of those, but I guess I'll have to troll eBay for a really beat up one for a decent sale.
Personally, I prefer a torch that can be powered from AA's so a variety of battery types can be used, (NiMH for daily use, Alkalines for extended outings, and Lithiums for emergencies/fun).
OK, have started down a very dark path into a new hobby for me? Well, the nice thing is that I'll have cool new toys to light my way.
Yuck! what version of vBulletin is that?! Nevermind once you get into a forum it's not too bad. OH crap! I've been waiting for the LED Maglites for a while now!
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Originally Posted by MaloS
Ya I am getting this Gray-Dough sensation when trying to say that. I think we need a forum-boycott of John's pronunciation of his own name.
Yuck! what version of vBulletin is that?! Nevermind once you get into a forum it's not too bad. OH crap! I've been waiting for the LED Maglites for a while now!
No kidding.
Anyone that complains about the bugs that happen in this forum should go visit CPF. Try doing a search.
Moderator: Headphoneus Supremus: Insulting his K-1000's would begin the Battle of Karthage
Originally Posted by Edwood
LOL, I'm afraid I'm going to have to convert to the ways of expensive flashlights.
Believe it or not, it was started by a mandate from my wife for a small, more powerful flashlight. She wants it for when walking the dog at night. Little keychain LED flashlight is not cutting it, and carrying around a 3D Maglight is just stupid.
So, I browsed the CandlePower forums and came across the Fenix L1P and L2P. Along with the Miller Modded ones.
Is the L1P a decent torch? It looks small enough to have approval from the wife. (and the budget.)
While Petery83 showed me his Surefire A2 Aviator? (I think that's what it was), holy crap that thing was bright in incandescent mode. I really want one of those, but I guess I'll have to troll eBay for a really beat up one for a decent sale.
Personally, I prefer a torch that can be powered from AA's so a variety of battery types can be used, (NiMH for daily use, Alkalines for extended outings, and Lithiums for emergencies/fun).
OK, have started down a very dark path into a new hobby for me? Well, the nice thing is that I'll have cool new toys to light my way.
-Ed
Along with a slew of Surefires, I also have a Fenix P1, L1P. L1T and L2T and the Miller Mod L0P.
I would highly recommend the L2T for your wife. It uses 2 AA batteries, is two stage, long battery life, and about the same size as a 2 AA Maglite.
In spite of the fact that the L1T and L2T have the same 10 lumen rating for low brightness mode, I find the L2T is actually quite a bit brighter than the L1T even when they're both in low brightness mode. Fenix Store - L2T
__________________ "The best way to predict the future is to invent it." -- Alan Kay
"In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists." Eric Hoffer
"The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity, and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because philosophy is an exalted activity, will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water." --John W. Gardner
Moderator: Headphoneus Supremus: Insulting his K-1000's would begin the Battle of Karthage
Originally Posted by Edwood
I like having a single AA powered one.
Fenix L1T
or
Fenix 1P
Which one is better?
-Ed
The L1T is superior to the L1P because it has 2 stages and the L1P does not. So with the L1T you have a low brightness mode (10 lumens) for reading and close work and then a high brightness mode (37 lumens) for distance work.
__________________ "The best way to predict the future is to invent it." -- Alan Kay
"In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists." Eric Hoffer
"The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity, and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because philosophy is an exalted activity, will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water." --John W. Gardner
Moderator: Headphoneus Supremus: Insulting his K-1000's would begin the Battle of Karthage
Just to put things in perspective, when you compare the Surefires with the Fenix torches, you'll find that the Surefiles are typically brighter (in some cases, many times brighter) and much more ruggedly built than the Fenix lights.
I have Surefire L2, L4, 2xE1L for LED based lights and E1e, 2xE2e, E2d, A2, and C3 for incandescent based torches.
The L2 is a 2 stage, 2x123 battery LED with around 80 lumens at high brightness. The L4 is a single stage LED with around 80-100 lumens output. Either one is more than tactically bright and will temporarily blind someone if you shine them into their face.
The E2 series lights are good for about 60 peak lumens, also tactically useful. The C3 is serious illumination at 200 lumens output!
The incandescent lights are all unregulated output except for the A2 which is quite unique with a 2 stage operation. Low level is 3 lumens LED unregulated, and high is REGULATED 50 lumens. (Note: 55 lumens is the rated high brightness of the Fenix L2T and the A2 lights up a far broader area)
Ed, if you're going to get your wife a Surefire, consider the E2d. It has a crenelated bezel and tail cap for self defense. You need to be aware that they eat CR123 batteries. Surefire is a good place to buy 123 batteries by the box. They charge 21 bux for a box of 12. The price has gone up a bit since I last bought batteries from them. Last time I bought, they were 1.25 each. Even with the increased prices, it's still cheaper than what you would pay for a 123 battery at a local store, which will nick you for about 6 bux for each battery!
Then if you want the O2 of the flashlight world, get the Surefire 10X Dominator! 500 lumens!!!
__________________ "The best way to predict the future is to invent it." -- Alan Kay
"In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists." Eric Hoffer
"The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity, and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because philosophy is an exalted activity, will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water." --John W. Gardner
Just to put things in perspective, when you compare the Surefires with the Fenix torches, you'll find that the Surefiles are typically brighter (in some cases, many times brighter) and much more ruggedly built than the Fenix lights.
I have Surefire L2, L4, 2xE1L for LED based lights and E1e, 2xE2e, E2d, A2, and C3 for incandescent based torches.
The L2 is a 2 stage, 2x123 battery LED with around 80 lumens at high brightness. The L4 is a single stage LED with around 80-100 lumens output. Either one is more than tactically bright and will temporarily blind someone if you shine them into their face.
The E2 series lights are good for about 60 peak lumens, also tactically useful. The C3 is serious illumination at 200 lumens output!
The incandescent lights are all unregulated output except for the A2 which is quite unique with a 2 stage operation. Low level is 3 lumens LED unregulated, and high is REGULATED 50 lumens. (Note: 55 lumens is the rated high brightness of the Fenix L2T and the A2 lights up a far broader area)
Ed, if you're going to get your wife a Surefire, consider the E2d. It has a crenelated bezel and tail cap for self defense. You need to be aware that they eat CR123 batteries. Surefire is a good place to buy 123 batteries by the box. They charge 21 bux for a box of 12. The price has gone up a bit since I last bought batteries from them. Last time I bought, they were 1.25 each. Even with the increased prices, it's still cheaper than what you would pay for a 123 battery at a local store, which will nick you for about 6 bux for each battery!
Then if you want the O2 of the flashlight world, get the Surefire 10X Dominator! 500 lumens!!!
LOL, I'm going to have to start a little more slowly.
The Single cell ones are a good start.
I read that the Fenix L1T can be used with a single CR123 (with a custom smaller body tube) and can be used with a 3.7 Lithium Ion 14500 Battery. But where the heck can I buy a charger for it that's not a hobby charger that uses alligator clips?
Oh, and to look to the future, is there a pic with a beam comparison between the Surefire A2's Incandescent and the Fenix L2T? One of those shooting down the hallway ones, so see how far, wide, and bright.
Are there rechargeable 123 batteries that work with the Surefire A2?
Are there rechargeable 123 batteries that work with the Surefire A2?-Ed
Hey Ed, glad to see you are now into yet another hobby
Overdriving LED-based lights with rechargeables can shorten the LED's life, in some cases, so I generally do not recommend this. However, a few folks have tried AW's MP700 cells and batteryspace.com's Powerizer RCR123a cells. The A2's a great light; kkwarth's recommendation of the Executive Defender is also great. And those are for the wife. Reserve a Kroma MILSPEC for you; it will light up just about anything and fit in your pocket.
