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It remains very unsettling that five highly educated, intelligent jurists sitting on our highest court, and having given their oath to uphold the Constitution, "find" that the Second Amendment does not provide an individual right and offer a "balancing" test unlike anything used for any other Constitutional right or protection to sidestep the majority's decision in the first gun rights case to reach the Court in 70 years. We did not win this one by much and 5-4 is way too close for an primary individual liberty and protection the Founders put second only to freedom of religion and speech. More like we just dodged a bullet.
My sentiments are similar. The trend against the 2nd may well continue.
That is a very large concern of mine. Aren't certain bullets that can be used that will not likely penetrate the walls?
Hollowpoints generally will not go through walls. They flower open when they hit something and are pretty ineffective after that. I keep the USP loaded with SXT hollowpoints at home.
Originally Posted by Old Pa
It remains very unsettling that five highly educated, intelligent jurists sitting on our highest court, and having given their oath to uphold the Constitution, "find" that the Second Amendment does not provide an individual right and offer a "balancing" test unlike anything used for any other Constitutional right or protection to sidestep the majority's decision in the first gun rights case to reach the Court in 70 years. We did not win this one by much and 5-4 is way too close for an primary individual liberty and protection the Founders put second only to freedom of religion and speech. More like we just dodged a bullet.
A win is a win. The Supreme Court rarely overturns itself, so this decision should stand for many years. And it'll take several years for a different case to snake through the appellate level, as well. We'll definitely have a different President by then, possibly a new Justice or two.
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Hollowpoints generally will not go through walls. They flower open when they hit something and are pretty ineffective after that. I keep the USP loaded with SXT hollowpoints at home.
My FNP9 stays loaded with hollowpoints when I'm at home, sitting within fairly easy access--no kids, only cats, who don't have opposable thumbs. =P When I go play with it at the range it loses the hollowpoints in favor of cheap 9mm FMJ which is good for putting holes in paper men. =P
So far it's never discharged a hollowpoint yet, and I hope that this gun's barrel burns out being used as a hole punch before it fires one. I've had a few crazy moments in my complex--the neighbors can get a little rowdy when they're drunk, but nothing a threat to call the cops and a wiggled cell phone hasn't solved.
Really though, anyone looking for a good, reliable, fairly accurate SA/DA autopistol, the FNP9 is a really nice gun at a GREAT price. It's almost too easy to find them for under $400 and with a little digging you can find them for $300. FN Herstal makes good stuff.
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I wonder if it can be modded to fire all four barrels at once. >.>
Didn't the OG pepperboxes back in the day shoot all 4(or more!) at once? Kinda like being a hand-shotgun with a large spray area, lol.
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So far it's never discharged a hollowpoint yet, and I hope that this gun's barrel burns out being used as a hole punch before it fires one.
Well, I'm not sure that's so smart (all due respect). I would suggest shooting a few boxes of those hollowpoints through the gun at the range to make sure it is reliable with them. Nothing would be worse than an ammunition caused malfunction when you need the gun the most.
Hollowpoints generally will not go through walls. They flower open when they hit something and are pretty ineffective after that. I keep the USP loaded with SXT hollowpoints at home.
My first 6 are Glaser Safety Slugs, the remaining 9 are FMJ. IIRC hollowpoints are illegal in Kalifornia.
Originally Posted by Uncle Erik
A win is a win. The Supreme Court rarely overturns itself, so this decision should stand for many years. And it'll take several years for a different case to snake through the appellate level, as well. We'll definitely have a different President by then, possibly a new Justice or two.
2X. The Second Amendment has been beaten and bloodied for the past 25 years, it's great to see the tide finally shifting.
Well, I went to the gun range yesterday with my girlfriend. It was a ton of fun. The first gun we should was a small ruger that had no recoil at all. It was a good intro, but a bit boring.
Then we tried a S&W .38 special and it had a little too much recoil, but seemed very powerful. It seems like it would not be smart to use this gun for personal protection because it seemed less accurate. But that is probably because it was our first time target shooting because on my second round of firing it, my aiming was a lot better.
It was so fun that I want to go back next week. lol The only thing is that it was pretty expensive because we had to rent the gun, buy the ammo, rent the lane, and buy the target sheets. I may have to find somewhere cheaper or get my own gun/ammo. The gun rental was only $6, but the actual ammo was around 3-4 times that depending on the gun.
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Didn't the OG pepperboxes back in the day shoot all 4(or more!) at once? Kinda like being a hand-shotgun with a large spray area, lol.
No, as they had only one lock system and the individual barrels were rotated under the hammer one at a time. There were "duckbill" pistols with several splayed barrels under the same lock mechanism so that they fired as one that were used for "crew control" aboard sailing ships.
Originally Posted by Uncle Erik
Hollowpoints generally will not go through walls. They flower open when they hit something and are pretty ineffective after that. I keep the USP loaded with SXT hollowpoints at home.
Actually, it depends upon the hollowpoint as with some designs the cavity fills with clothing or plaster and the bullet becomes. essentially, a FMJ penetrator. New designs with cut jackets seem better. YMMV.
A win is a win. The Supreme Court rarely overturns itself, so this decision should stand for many years. And it'll take several years for a different case to snake through the appellate level, as well. We'll definitely have a different President by then, possibly a new Justice or two.
Heller is a win in recognizing the Second Amendment provides an individual right and I do not mean to denigrate that, but, mark my words, the invitation to a balancing test for individual rights under (and only under) the Second Amendment that the minority makes will come back to haunt us. That is a legal opinion.
Originally Posted by synaesthetic
My FNP9 stays loaded with hollowpoints when I'm at home, sitting within fairly easy access--no kids, only cats, who don't have opposable thumbs. =P When I go play with it at the range it loses the hollowpoints in favor of cheap 9mm FMJ which is good for putting holes in paper men. =P
I understand the cost argument, especially these days, of shooting cheaper FMJ ammo at the range, but I don't do it for three reasons. It does not get you rotating your ammunition that is in the pistol and that you will be relying upon. Ammo stability is pretty good, but it is subject to penetrating firearms lubricants and other storage hazards. I first shoot the bullets that were in the gun at the range to see how things would have gone had I needed the use in extremus; both for ammunition reliability and function (in a semi-auto) and for shot placement. Different ammunition in the same caliber will not have the same point of impact because of bullet weight, bullet design, and powder/primer charge. Since my bottom line accuracy requirement is at least headshot accuracy at twenty yards under no pressure (4 inch group at point of aim), I need to know where the working ammo is going to impact. BTW, at my concealed carry recertification course last week, I was high gun with 244 out of 250 possible. Finally, if you train in the most realistic manner possible, including the same ammo, you may have greater assurance that your actual results will resemble your training results. Shoot the same ammo you plan to use defensively.
Originally Posted by oicdn
I would hate to be holding onto that thing when it goes off. Modern high performance .35 caliber pistols have quite sharp reports and twisting recoils; I much prefer light load .44RemMag with three times the muzzle energy. How is it for a tactical reload? Since the stats are to plan for multiple aggressive attackers in a lethal force scenario, I guess you might want to hit what you are aiming at. How's the trigger pull? Looks like it has to draw a striker for each barrel. Which barrel are the sights set for? Looks a little like "spray and pray" to anyone from the shot placement school. Firepower is bullets striking center mass.
Originally Posted by ronin74
My first 6 are Glaser Safety Slugs, the remaining 9 are FMJ. IIRC hollowpoints are illegal in Kalifornia.
I got away from the Glasers back in the early 80s; they were very expensive, had a different point of impact than my usual ammunition, were useless against vehicles or light cover, and had problematic functioning in some semi-auto pistols due to the light bullet weight. I could never afford enough of them (at least 250 rounds) to train adequately with and ascertain reliable function. You may want to re-think this.
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