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In regards to the Enfields, Pa, you might like better the sights on the No. 4 Mk II. The rear sight has the battle sight but flips up for a micrometer sight. I haven't shot mine in a long time, ran out of sources for cheap ammo.
That's exactly what I got from Numrich and dropped right into the receiver cuts. Works like a charm. Don't really know what accuracy potential there is with the locking lugs on the back of the bolt. I am my own source of cheap ammunition.
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That's exactly what I got from Numrich and dropped right into the receiver cuts. Works like a charm. Don't really know what accuracy potential there is with the locking lugs on the back of the bolt. I am my own source of cheap ammunition.
Oh, you do have a No. 4 Mk. 2. I didn't really look at the picture. My K98k's shot better than my Enfield but I have more fun with the Enfield. The action seems so slick to me. But yeah, I like the old milsurps. They're tough work horses and are fun to collect and shoot. Just wish I still had all of mine. Maybe a few years down the road I'll try to pick up a 1903.
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From Smith & Smith's classic authoritative reference Small Arms of the World, 10th Revised Edition, at page 622:
"The entry of the United States into World War I found this country with a very limited supply of M1903 rifles on hand . . . . and only two plants tooled to produce this rifle. Three large gun plants . . . . were completing large contracts for the British-designed caliber .303 P14 (Enfield) (emphasis added) rifles. . . . The P14 had been originally designed as the P13 for a rimless caliber .280 cartridge; it was not difficult to modify the design to use the U.S. caliber.30 M1906 cartridge. Additional modifications were made to simplify production and to standardize parts between plants and in this manner the U.S. caliber .30 Rifle Model 1917 (or Enfield as it is commonly known) (emphasis added) was born.
The Model 1917 is a modified Mauser with frontal locking lugs that c**ks, as the British Lee Enfield (emphasis added) on the forward push of the bolt."
If Enfield is good enough for Smith & Smith in referring to the Model 1917, it's good enough for me. I have never heard the Model 1917 referred to as a "Mauser", although it certainly has some characteristics of Paul Mauser's famous and long-lived design as do most modern turnbolt rifles.
While the Boers started out fighting the British with 8mm Mausers, most of them were using captured SMLEs by the end of the war for obvious logistical reasons. Americans carrying .30-40 Krags in Cuba were most impressed with the Spanish troops' 7x57mm Mausers, especially the velocity of the bullets. It took two more tries however, to get the U.S. from the .30-40 to the .30-06. I had a Krag years ago, but found it fragilly complex and ballistically unimpressive.
a few notes... i should have rephrased while the rifle can be called an enfield because of where it was originally designed and made it's action design is 99% mauser ... before the model 1898 action all mauser action designs were **** on close (possibly not the 1871 or 1888 models but i haven't actually held either in complete condition (have held some of the "wallhanger grade" boltless rifles) and can't find any info on if it's **** on close or **** on open)
the boers used the model 1895 mauser chambered for 7x57
in fact i've seen a couple of articles (forget where) that were titled "britain's mauser" and "the mauser from enfield" so they have been referred to as mausers before
we've both made some good points and it's obvious why the enfield modified mauser was replaced in both countries that used them... the brits had comparable accuracy with their lee-enfields but the lee-enfields also had a smoother action allowing for better rate of fire and larger magazine capacity
while the US m1903 simply had a lighter weight, smaller profile, and it was cheaper to manufacture
and within the next week i should have another mosin coming in... a 91/59 (91/30 converted to a carbine... many theories exist on why these carbines were made... some say security police reserves, some have suggested a possible cuban connection, i've suggested a zombie invasion of murmansk, it's even been suggested it was as simple as a soviet project to simply create a job for people to do
the boers used the model 1895 mauser chambered for 7x57
Pakenham's The Boer War, Illustrated Edition, 1993, Random House (which if you have not seen you would probably enjoy; lots of period photographs) states Krueger in 1897 ordered a second rifle purchased for each burgher or 37,000 8mm Mausers and 2 million rounds of 8mm Mauser ammunition before the British blockade was instituted. 7x57mm Mausers were available, and I'm sure they were utilized, but the vast majority ordered and utilized were 8mm Mauser.
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The lovers of powerful precision among us owe a debt of thanks to the Allied Occupation Command in Germany after the end of WWII. When German citizens, with strong cultural attachments to firearm target shooting matches, approached them to restart this sport, Occupation Command agreed with the proviso of "no firearms". And the high end airgun market was born.
Winter in the Northwoods would be much longer without my indoor 10 meter range. With precision target airguns, you can practice all aspects of shooting without blast or flinch. And the range of modern high end airguns is broad; I have a friend who has taken buffalo with his heavy airgun.
Before compressed air and new generation CO2 airguns became the rage, there were spring piston airguns. All my precision airguns are of this type. The top rifle is and RWS Model 75 left hand recoiless .177 match rifle. It shoots way better than I can. The 3rd rifle is a RWS Model 48 .177 that drives a heavy match pellet over 1000fps and is just the answer to suburban "agricultural pests". The pistol on the bottom is a RWS Model 6M fitted with left hand adjustable platform grips. It is also recoiless and in .177 caliber.
The second rifle down is a Crossman that, while it is over twenty year old, is the modern variant of my "pump up pellet gun" from the '60s. My original had wood furniture and Crossman has since cheaped out ala Daisy. This is my "air-drop-gun" provided as a gift by a friend for a special application. You see the city I live in several decades ago took the expedient of amending their common "no discharge of a firearm within city limits" ordinance. The amendment reads that for purposes of the ordinance all airguns are defined as firearms. So if one of my bunny-hugging neighbors rats me out for "permanently relocating" some agricultural pests, the Crossman is what the PO's get to seize. Hasn't happened yet.
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You can buy .177 cal air rifles from "out of the back of a semi sales" for around $30 - made in Romania, break action to ****...horrible accuracy, but then you can keep the Crosman! Loan the Crosman to some young soul needing a piece for learning.
You can buy .177 cal air rifles from "out of the back of a semi sales" for around $30 - made in Romania, break action to ****...horrible accuracy, but then you can keep the Crosman!
I got my father one of them fine Chinese airguns back in the early 80s, side-c**king spring piston, fit and feel (and sights ) of a fine Type 56 (SKS) with accuracy to match. Kind of like having this Crosman around for its stated purpose.
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I found that my Dad has the Gamo P23 as shown above, I might pick that up and do some target shooting in the yard this summer. Gonna have to stock up on pellets and CO2.
You can buy .177 cal air rifles from "out of the back of a semi sales" for around $30 - made in Romania, break action to ****...horrible accuracy, but then you can keep the Crosman! Loan the Crosman to some young soul needing a piece for learning.
horrible accuracy? mine must be a fluke then... it's a bit underpowered but i don't mind.. i only bought it because i wanted a cheap break barrel for plinking so i ordered one from century when i bought my K98k
as the British Lee Enfield (emphasis added) on the forward push of the bolt."
provided as a gift by a friend for a special application. You see the city I live in several decades ago took the expedient of amending their common "no discharge of a firearm within city limits" ordinance. The amendment reads that for purposes of the ordinance all airguns are defined as firearms.
So if one of my bunny-hugging neighbors rats me out for "permanently relocating" some agricultural pests, the Crossman is what the PO's get to seize. Hasn't happened yet. 
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