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Old 01-29-2008, 10:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, trying to help the uncle out by setting up two desktops running WinXP and doing graphical work like CAD and the like... what do you guys recommend buying (in parts)?

He probably wants 4gb of RAM and one of those quadro video cards right? Anyways, please list me some good bang-for-the-buck parts for this project of mine!

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Old 01-29-2008, 11:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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We run HP Workstations at work to run AutoCAD 2006 and SolidEdge v19. They're pretty beefy Workstations that run about $2200 to $3000. If your uncle is opening large files then get him the fastest processor he can afford. I've found that the processor really gets pegged when opening large drawings. Of course you'll need a good graphics card for 3D. Depending on the Workstation we've been getting the Nvidia Quadro cards. I think the latest Workstations are coming with the FX 1500 series. Just make sure whatever card he gets that you go to the CAD website to see if it's been tested and recommended. Of course you'll need a beefy power supply to handle the video card and all the other components. Oh, since XP can't see 4GB of RAM anyway I wouldn't get more than 3GB.
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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^ yea thats what i was thinking... he is trying to be super cheap though... he says he wants it to be under $1500 for each system!!! so far it is possible by me getting:

PU - Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 -
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 Conroe 2.33GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

Mobo - Gigabyte -
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

RAM - G.Skill 4gb PC8000 -
Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

Video card - PNY Quadro FX1700 512mb -
Newegg.com - PNY VCQFX1700-PCIE-PB Quadro FX1700 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail

Hard Drive - Seagate barracuda 250gb -
Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

Case+PSU - Generic -
Newegg.com - Rosewill R604TBLK-N 120mm Fan ATX Mid Tower Computer Case+450W Power Supply - Retail
or separate...
Case Only - Antec Solo -
Newegg.com - Antec Solo Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
and
PSU only - Thermaltake 430W -
Newegg.com - Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC ATX 430W Power Supply 115/ 230 V - Retail

Keyboard, Mouse, etc. - anything is fine as long as it is not a cheap
wireless set =)

Monitor - Samsung 22" -
Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1(DC 3000:1) - Retail
or
Westinghouse 24" -
Newegg.com - Westinghouse L2410NM Black 24" 8ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 500 cd/m2 1000:1 Built in Speakers - Retail
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Your system looks pretty good. I would do an E6750 or an E8400 processor. I wouldn't skimp on the CPU. Are you talking 3D CAD like Pro/E or Solidworks or 2D like AutoCad? If it is 2D, then that video card is overkill and the processor is fine. Believe it or not, if you want to skimp, a $200 3D gaming card will work just fine with 3D or 2D. I have run Solidworks and Pro/E on a Geforce 7600GT and on an ATI x800XT with no problems.
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If color accuracy/picture quality doesn't matter, then go with the Westinghouse. I think he'd appreciate the extra resolution.

As per above, 4 gigs of ram is a waste. XP is not going to see more than 3.22gigs or something.

Do you think you could fit in Server 2003? You can make it into a workstation OS, and it has proper multi-core/SMP support and proper ram support.
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i could talk to my uncle about it... he's actually gonna give one of the systems to a colleague of his O_O

i'll ask him about the 3D CAD thingy and see if i can skip out on the quadros
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Believe it or not, if you want to skimp, a $200 3D gaming card will work just fine with 3D or 2D. I have run Solidworks and Pro/E on a Geforce 7600GT and on an ATI x800XT with no problems.
I 2nd that. I picked up a dual processor tower on the cheap off eBay to go with my GeForce and using Pro/E it is fast and the scrolling of images is seamlessly smooth. I suggest an uninterruptable power supply as well if it is critical work that is being done. I got one that fits in one of the HD slots and so far it has paid for itself many times over.
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I 2nd that. I picked up a dual processor tower on the cheap off eBay to go with my GeForce and using Pro/E it is fast and the scrolling of images is seamlessly smooth. I suggest an uninterruptable power supply as well if it is critical work that is being done. I got one that fits in one of the HD slots and so far it has paid for itself many times over.
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Ever spent hours doing a complicated drawing, only to then suffer an unexplained powerline failure? I have, and the air was blue for many minutes afterwards. So since then I have fitted an uninterruptable PSU. It gives me a warning signal when the mains has failed, and I get 5 minutes odd to save my work.
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Ever spent hours doing a complicated drawing, only to then suffer an unexplained powerline failure? I have, and the air was blue for many minutes afterwards. So since then I have fitted an uninterruptable PSU. It gives me a warning signal when the mains has failed, and I get 5 minutes odd to save my work.
I have an UPS. You said you had one, that fits in an HDD rack. Mine is the size of my PC...
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