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Old 06-16-2008, 09:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cool Mozart or Bach

A quick question, who's better: does Mozart beat Bach or Bach beat Mozart? And why?
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Impossible to answer objectively...........Bach was more prolific, so there he beats Mozart. Mozart could be subjectively perceived as more melodic so there he beats Bach (but I actually don't really think Mozart was more melodic than Bach)..........They also wrote in such different mediums.........Mozart is a great opera composer whereas Bach never wrote an opera and even if he had, it was a different time and Opera of the Baroque was considerably different than the opera of Mozart's time. Mozart wrote symphonies.......Bach lived in a time where symphonies were not around.....and even Sonata Allegro form was fairly new at the end of Bach's life. Bach wrote a far greater series of solo keyboard music than Mozart. Mozart's Piano concerti are probably greater than Bach's keyboard concertos, which are really adaptations of other works anyway.........Bach's sacred choral music is to me, the epitome of that genre and even beats Mozart's Requiem. The Brandenburg Concertos could I guess be compared to a symphony but theyre really not symphonies at all.........I give the edge to the Brandenburgs over Mozart's symphonies as great as they are. Bach was a master of counterpoint and specifically the Fugue......whereas Mozart was a master of classical balance and melody. If you prefer the latter than Mozart will be more important to you than Bach. However, to the history of music, there is no doubt in my mind that Bach is more influential and important. The reason I say this is.....while Mozart's music is adored and maybe the most famous in the world......it is not as continuously supplanted into every genre of music as Bach's music is........Bach's music can be felt blatantly in every genre of music from Jazz to Pop to Rock to Rap to Country to Techno to House to Metal and of course all the Classical subgenres...........Bach is the most important composer so far in the history of music. No Question.
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As DavidMahler said, It's a really hard question and I can't give an anwer of even a personnal prefference.

I do know that Bach lived longer than Mozart so he must have achieved a better overall work of art than Mozart but we can't cast aside that Mozart could have attained greater summits.

I am really not knowledgable but that's my opinion.
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Beats? I didn't realize music was a competition.
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Beats? I didn't realize music was a competition.
I think it was a figure of speech talking about overall work.

You can turn anything into a competition even if it isn't at the begining...
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In a fistfight I'd take Bach, but that's assuming equal ages. I'm pretty sure Mozart could beat up his corpse/bones by the time he was old enough to walk.
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Can't say which beats the other, but I prefer Bach. I used to prefer Mozart and the romantic composers, but one day about 12 years ago, I heard a Bach piece and it spoke to me. I don't know why. I bought some Bach discs and he's been in regular rotation since.

The same thing happened with jazz a couple years ago. Never much liked it, then, somehow, the switch was flipped. I listen to jazz all the time now.
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I prefer Bach. His chaconne is the greatest piece of music I've ever heard.
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It is ike asking 100 guys to rate their preference: blondes or brunettes? apples or oranges?
As for myself, I like Bach by a big margin, and also blondes and oranges.
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Impossible to answer objectively...........Bach was more prolific, so there he beats Mozart. Mozart could be subjectively perceived as more melodic so there he beats Bach (but I actually don't really think Mozart was more melodic than Bach)..........They also wrote in such different mediums.........Mozart is a great opera composer whereas Bach never wrote an opera and even if he had, it was a different time and Opera of the Baroque was considerably different than the opera of Mozart's time. Mozart wrote symphonies.......Bach lived in a time where symphonies were not around.....and even Sonata Allegro form was fairly new at the end of Bach's life. Bach wrote a far greater series of solo keyboard music than Mozart. Mozart's Piano concerti are probably greater than Bach's keyboard concertos, which are really adaptations of other works anyway.........Bach's sacred choral music is to me, the epitome of that genre and even beats Mozart's Requiem. The Brandenburg Concertos could I guess be compared to a symphony but theyre really not symphonies at all.........I give the edge to the Brandenburgs over Mozart's symphonies as great as they are. Bach was a master of counterpoint and specifically the Fugue......whereas Mozart was a master of classical balance and melody. If you prefer the latter than Mozart will be more important to you than Bach. However, to the history of music, there is no doubt in my mind that Bach is more influential and important. The reason I say this is.....while Mozart's music is adored and maybe the most famous in the world......it is not as continuously supplanted into every genre of music as Bach's music is........Bach's music can be felt blatantly in every genre of music from Jazz to Pop to Rock to Rap to Country to Techno to House to Metal and of course all the Classical subgenres...........Bach is the most important composer so far in the history of music. No Question.
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