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View Poll Results: Best Bowie Album
Space Oddity 9 12.33%
Hunky Dory 10 13.70%
The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars 28 38.36%
Diamond Dogs 1 1.37%
Low 11 15.07%
Let's Dance 7 9.59%
Labyrinth 0 0%
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Other 7 9.59%
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Why do people think Pet Sounds is so great anyway? I have it but it doesn't do much for me at all. Sounds quite corny to me.
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so who borrowed from who is almost irrelevant.
It's not irrelevant when it is almost exactly the same and back then doing that was not really cool. I don't think it is too cool these days either as it shows a lack of original creativity but that's my opinion. Saliari would agree with me though.

Wish I could go back and change my vote from Ziggy Stardust to Diamond Dogs so it gets at least one vote. It's just not right that Lets Dance gets votes and DD none.

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I never liked Bowie, because of his image, until I heard Changes as a single on the radio (I was into r&b at the time). It made me interested in listening to his other work and I became a fan. So even though I like a lot of his albums equally my vote goes to Hunky Dory.
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We will have to disagree on this - I think even Let's Dance is better than Diamond Dogs.

The missing albums are the interesting ones - Station to Station, Heroes, Lodger, Scary Monsters are all first rate Bowie, and Man Who Sold the World and Aladdin Sane are pretty good as well. On that poll there are only 3 great Bowie albums - Ziggy Stardust, Low and Hunky Dory. Of latter day Bowie only Reality has been remotely worth a listen to.
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It's not irrelevant when it is almost exactly the same and back then doing that was not really cool.
Hmm...really? Have you ever heard of a guitarist named Eric Clapton? Some of his licks are lifted nearly verbatim from some ol' blues guy...name escapes me.

There's also a Steely Dan single called "Rikki Don't Lose That Number" where the whole groove sounds like some famous jazz tune.

Now, for the record, I'm not mad at Clapton or Steely Dan, and I've spoken with Horace Silver (the composer of the aforementioned "jazz tune") and he's not mad at them, either. Of course, he wouldn't have minded the extra windfall like what Steely Dan got a decade or so later, when De La Soul used a little bit of "Peg" for the track "Eye Know".

P.S. I'm kinda with you on Pet Sounds, even though "God Only Knows" is damn close to genius.
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It's not irrelevant when it is almost exactly the same and back then doing that was not really cool. I don't think it is too cool these days either as it shows a lack of original creativity but that's my opinion. Saliari would agree with me though.

Wish I could go back and change my vote from Ziggy Stardust to Diamond Dogs so it gets at least one vote. It's just not right that Lets Dance gets votes and DD none.
i don't know... your low opinion of Pet Sounds puts your judgment in question.

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We will have to disagree on this - I think even Let's Dance is better than Diamond Dogs.
You can disagree all you want but the fact remains you are wrong.

Bowie needed a cash infusion due to wasting it all on drugs and what have you so 'Let's Dance' was just a means to an end. It is a commercial pop album designed to sell to the masses and does not even belong in the same sentence as Diamond Dogs.
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Hmm...really? Have you ever heard of a guitarist named Eric Clapton? Some of his licks are lifted nearly verbatim from some ol' blues guy...name escapes me.
And that would explain why I have never bought a Clapton album in my life. He is a good guitarist but a creative genius he is not. Let's not kid ourselves about someone's abilities here.
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i don't know... your low opinion of Pet Sounds puts your judgment in question.

I don't like that surf safari sound and never have. It's a matter of taste and not judgment. I don't even rate The Beatles nearly as high as most do just because they are overplayed, overrated and I find other music more interesting.
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I don't like that surf safari sound and never have.
you've obviously not listened to Pet Sounds before. it's not the "surf safari sound."
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Think as you like but I do have it. Not all of it is surf sound but there are surf sound songs on it. Anyway, that's the general genre Beach Boys go in as far as I am concerned and I am not a fan of that sound too much.

<checks last.fm>

Yep, "Surf" is a major part of their description for genre.

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OK, just saw one of their genre tags is "Sunshine Pop". I'll refer to them from now on as "sunshine pop" to make you happy, but I hate sunshine pop too so that works fine for me.

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the album, not the band. of course the band is "surf."
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Then what is your argument? That 'Pet Sounds' is not atypical Beach Boys or what? Sounds to me you are making a mountain out of a mole hill just because you take exception to me having different taste in music than you.

"Wouldn't It Be Nice" is on the album and is classic Beach Boy sound, I don't care for it. OK? The album cover is even corny and not to my taste at all.
Leave it at that.
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Then what is your argument? That 'Pet Sounds' is not atypical Beach Boys or what? Sounds to me you are making a mountain out of a mole hill just because you take exception to me having different taste in music than you.

"Wouldn't It Be Nice" is on the album and is classic Beach Boy sound, I don't care for it. OK? The album cover is even corny and not to my taste at all.
Leave it at that.
well, my first response, about your judgment, was just a joke (hence the at the end)... of course everyone has different taste! but then you responded in length and seemed a bit exercised over my post, so i egged you on with more replies.

but that doesn't change the fact that Hunky Dory is still the best Bowie album, no matter what the Ziggy contingent says.

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