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06-15-2008, 01:31 AM
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Sennheiser Molds For DIY Headphone cables
Moon Audio is proud to announce the long awaited way for you DIYers to be able to build your own Senn cables. Here it is baby:
Price $30/pair. one Red one Black.
Theses may need a little modification for Phones such as the HD25. But simply add some hot glue in the pocket once you solder your wires and then add a piece of Heashrink. We will make heatshrink available as well for your project.
Last edited by drubrew; 09-04-2008 at 02:32 PM.
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08-10-2008, 04:06 AM
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They look like the Cardas ones. $2 less though  That's good news.
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08-11-2008, 02:13 AM
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Yeah,they're exactly the Cardas ones.
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08-11-2008, 03:15 AM
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I might be stopping buy Moon Audio to pick up a pair or two of these in the next month Drew.
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08-20-2008, 06:19 AM
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What kind of mods need to be done for the HD25?
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08-20-2008, 12:35 PM
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These will work, although a little bulkier than stock cables or our premolded cables. These are based on the HD650 mold.
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09-04-2008, 02:02 PM
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Drew where are these connectors on the website? I can't find either.
Thanks
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09-04-2008, 02:27 PM
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I guess it would help if I remembered to add them to the website They'll be listed under DIY Other Connectors sometime today.
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09-04-2008, 05:28 PM
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Thnaks Drew.
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09-04-2008, 07:12 PM
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I am curious to now how much they cost to produce.
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09-04-2008, 07:29 PM
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I am curious to now how much they cost to produce.
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While I'm sure that Drew can speak to this better than I can I feel like I have some first hand knowledge to share. I was actually a part of the beta process for Cardas and I can tell you that the amount of time that they spent developing these plugs was not insignificant, think years. Also the connector and strain relief went through multiple revisions/prototypes before the final design was settled on. So while the manufactured cost is probably quite low now that they have completed all of the R&D if they didn't recoup that cost they'd go out of business.
Are they expensive, yup, but you can build some sweet cables with them.
[edit]And before someone asks, no, I don't build Senn cables for sale. I have a couple friends who have them and that's what you're looking at.
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09-05-2008, 01:42 PM
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I didn't think of this. R&D.
I thought jacks are way harder to build and they cost 2€.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bidoux
I didn't think of this. R&D.
I thought jacks are way harder to build and they cost 2€.
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The final price is also directly related to how many of them they have to sell in order to reach the break-even payback point. My guess is that they sell a lot more jacks with a lot more consistency so they can afford to have a smaller pack back per unit because they know they'll sell enough to make the economics work. The Senn plug is a niche product that has never been offered before by any company so I'm sure Cardas had to be conservative in projecting annual sales and so on. Maybe if they sell enough in the first year they'll drop the price, who knows?
The only thing that I know for certain is that I much prefer working with them compared to the old hack and tap method of modifying an existing cable.
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09-05-2008, 02:08 PM
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The Mold to makes these cost around $5000. The Plastic injection machine to inject the mold can run between $75000 to $150000.
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09-07-2008, 03:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drubrew
The Mold to makes these cost around $5000. The Plastic injection machine to inject the mold can run between $75000 to $150000.
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Yup, tooling costs are a killer.
These plugs look so nice.
What's the largest diameter (gauge) of wires that can possibly fit these?
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