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LOL - do I need to finish this joke?
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02-12-2009, 12:45 AM
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I know that I've been a little out of touch with the latest in the headphones realm, but I didn't know that release of the HD800 was imminent. These sure do look to provide impressive sound at an equally impressive price point! Sure would be nice to have a listen
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02-12-2009, 02:19 PM
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Okay, if these new Sennheiser HD800s sound so great, then how do they compare with the Sennheiser Orpheus? I know that Orpheus are Electrostatic and the new HD800s are Dynamic; but still- Sound is Sound?
Additionally, if the Orpheus and the HD 800s are close in sound; then why the crazy price for the Orpheus?
Just some ideas for thought?
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02-12-2009, 02:27 PM
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Additionally, what type of music did Jude and Tyll audtion the HD800s with. To be honest acoustic music tends to sound better or more detailed than electrified amplified music. Not all sources are equal. It could be that the cause of the great sound was the source of the music and the way it was recorded as apposed to the headphones in question. As you can tell from my equipment list, I do have a number of fine quality headphones and headphone amps. Why is it that when I use them, one source of music, either from Cd, Vinyl, internet radio, tape etc, sounds better than another at a given time. Sometimes I think that a really good source is all you need to create a significant improvement in the sounds coming out of your headphones or musical system. It is all so complicated!
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02-12-2009, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottsmrnyc
Okay, if these new Sennheiser HD800s sound so great, then how do they compare with the Sennheiser Orpheus? I know that Orpheus are Electrostatic and the new HD800s are Dynamic; but still- Sound is Sound?
Additionally, if the Orpheus and the HD 800s are close in sound; then why the crazy price for the Orpheus?
Just some ideas for thought?
Scottsmrnyc
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IMO, expense is dictated by a lot of things, and in the case of the Orpheus, it would seem that the technology used in its design is what dictates expense. It's like buying a novel electrical car at enormous price, even though it technically doesn't perform better than the regular and mass produced, gasoline dependent type.
Electrostatic headphone technology as in the Orpheus isn't mass produced and hence, will be expensive, even though the quality of sound may not be better than a cheaper headphone of the dynamic type.
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02-12-2009, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottsmrnyc
Additionally, what type of music did Jude and Tyll audtion the HD800s with. To be honest acoustic music tends to sound better or more detailed than electrified amplified music. Not all sources are equal. It could be that the cause of the great sound was the source of the music and the way it was recorded as apposed to the headphones in question. As you can tell from my equipment list, I do have a number of fine quality headphones and headphone amps. Why is it that when I use them, one source of music, either from Cd, Vinyl, internet radio, tape etc, sounds better than another at a given time. Sometimes I think that a really good source is all you need to create a significant improvement in the sounds coming out of your headphones or musical system. It is all so complicated!
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This is where experience comes in. I'd be far more inclined to take the opinion of someone who has been listening to headphones of varying type and quality for many years, to make the call of whether or not a pair of headphones sound great or are better than another pair.
With experience, you are able to see beyond what is the difference between a headphone's sound character vs technical excellence, i.e., the ability to reproduce sound detail etc.
However, I do take your point in that the source can limit one's appreciation of technical differences between two very good pairs of headphones, or two very good amps.
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02-17-2009, 11:04 AM
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Tyll, has anyone ever told you that you look like David Gilmour?
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02-17-2009, 07:18 PM
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Tyll, has anyone ever told you that you look like David Gilmour?
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Naw, the one I usually get is Ron White. (Blue Collar comic.)
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02-17-2009, 08:31 PM
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With a guitar in hand or headphones on his head (where else would it go?) modern day David Gilmour, all the way!
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03-03-2009, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Sherwood
Yeah, Spammy as charged. Nonetheless, with the impressions on this board thusfar, and the hand-made nature of these, I don't think starved supply is that unreasonable. Folks who preorder early will have a guaranteed pair on launch date, folks who wait until they read some reviews and sell some gear may not see them for months. If you're insane enough to be seriously thinking about spending $1400 on a pair of hadphones, you may as well admit to yourself that you're eventually going to buy them. Why not be a trailblazer?
On another note, I look forward to more news about the connectors, the FR charts, and which HR amp pairs with these best... 
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So if you buy a 1,400 headphone, some how all your faculties are not there? I'd expect that kind of talk from a headphone noob, but not from a experienced head fier like yourself. Yes, I will get one.. Maybe I'm more crazy cause I work at BB, so the cost will be that much more hard hitting..But I would like to have the 'best' headphone ever created.
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03-03-2009, 02:39 PM
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So if you buy a 1,400 headphone, some how all your faculties are not there? I'd expect that kind of talk from a headphone noob, but not from a experienced head fier like yourself. Yes, I will get one.. Maybe I'm more crazy cause I work at BB, so the cost will be that much more hard hitting..But I would like to have the 'best' headphone ever created.
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I think he meant it in a joking "Head-fi insane" kind of way. Such as many of insane to spend so much on audio according to others.
I will admit I may see a pair of these in my future too, can't afford them now.
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