VCAP dock...with 4G? - Head-Fi: Covering Headphones, Earphones and Portable Audio

Pokato · 11-30-2007, 10:45 PM

Hi guys, had a crazy idea today but don't if its gonna work, maybe Ken/Vinnie can give some input.

I know for the 4G iMod, the caps are built in already, hence no need for the imod cable/dock. However, since from what I've read, the DAC inside the 4G are better than the 5/5.5G, is it possible for RWA to remove the cap inside, and make it to use the imod cable/dock instead?

This way you can have the better DAC, along with the VCAP for the best possible sound?

Can this be done, and is it worth it?

matt8268 · 12-01-2007, 12:01 AM

Not sure where you read the 4G DAC is better than the 5G. That used to be conventional wisdom (posted by Vinnie) until it was reversed (also by Vinnie, after he figured out how to imod it).

Bozz_Keren · 12-01-2007, 01:00 AM

so is 4G DAC better than 5/5.5G?
cause i'm planning to iMod my 4/5G ipod

Pokato · 12-01-2007, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bozz_Keren

so is 4G DAC better than 5/5.5G?
cause i'm planning to iMod my 4/5G ipod

I'm not sure, I thought I read it the 4G is better than 5G/5.5G, however matt8268 might be right.

Bozz_Keren · 12-01-2007, 01:22 AM

@Pokato
yes all this time i've known that 4G DAC is better, but now its the other around
what does Vinnie says about this, where can i find his post?
thanks

wsilvio · 12-01-2007, 03:06 AM

I own both, and can hear a difference for the better in the 5.5 imod. I think it has a clearer more detailed sound. Of course this is how I hear it, and other may disagree. And of course, the 4g still has great sound.

But when you put the vcap dock on, it is really something!

Bozz_Keren · 12-02-2007, 02:36 AM

how about 5G vs 5.5G?

shiezan · 12-02-2007, 05:02 AM

How big is the difference between a 4G and a vcap + 5G?

Is it anywhere close to the difference between a regular iPod and a iMod?

manaox2 · 12-03-2007, 01:47 PM

I've read it many times where Vinnie quoted the 5.5g iMod as having better bass. The iPod and iMod line out have a big difference to them in sound, they really aren't very close.

found it after a long time searching: New iMod for the iPod 5G: A Red Wine Audio/ALO Collaboration

Its not a question for how close is the 4th gen with vCap dock is to a 5th gen iPod. No iPod can get enhance quality with the vCap dock without being iModded and you can't use a vCap dock with the 4th gen iMod as only the headphone jack is modified.

Pokato · 12-03-2007, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaox2

I've read it many times where Vinnie quoted the 5.5g iMod as having better bass. The iPod and iMod line out have a big difference to them in sound, they really aren't very close.

found it after a long time searching: New iMod for the iPod 5G: A Red Wine Audio/ALO Collaboration

Its not a question for how close is the 4th gen with vCap dock is to a 5th gen iPod. No iPod can get enhance quality with the vCap dock without being iModded and you can't use a vCap dock with the 4th gen iMod as only the headphone jack is modified.

But if we can removed the caps built in the 4G, we can use a mini-mini cable and connect to the portable vcap dock, in theroy this should work the same as the 5G right?