Your Vampire cable in the long run may be easier to live with. The Jenna 18g wire is a bit heavier and a little stiffer I would think. Thanks for the image.
Update since there have been no other posts since I posted the above.
After having the ALO modified HFI-780 with Jenna 18 g cables over the weekend I am really enjoying the music these are giving me. Very smooth, precise and detailed at the same time. This is one re-cable job/modification worth having. Your mileage may vary with either the Jenna cable or the Vampire but either one I am sure adds something to this headphone with Ken's modifications added to the mix.
Thanks Ken
Second update:
Here is my setup at my Easy Chair: Squeezebox 3 ---> Lavry DA10---> Yamamoto HA-02---> ALO-HFI-780J there is a ALO Auricap iMod docking station just behind the headphones. The Yamamoto HA-02 has a two input switch. I really am enjoying the sound of this setup. BTW, my stock HFI-780 was well broken in before sending it off for the modifications.
Just got my new ALO 780's in today's mail. After a brief listen (much sibilance, wooly bass) decided to let 'em burn in the rest of today and overnight before I try 'em out again.
Your Vampire cable in the long run may be easier to live with. The Jenna 18g wire is a bit heavier and a little stiffer I would think. Thanks for the image.
Update since there have been no other posts since I posted the above.
After having the ALO modified HFI-780 with Jenna 18 g cables over the weekend I am really enjoying the music these are giving me. Very smooth, precise and detailed at the same time. This is one re-cable job/modification worth having. Your mileage may vary with either the Jenna cable or the Vampire but either one I am sure adds something to this headphone with Ken's modifications added to the mix.
Thanks Ken
Second update:
Here is my setup at my Easy Chair: Squeezebox 3 ---> Lavry DA10---> Yamamoto HA-02---> ALO-HFI-780J there is a ALO Auricap iMod docking station just behind the headphones. The Yamamoto HA-02 has a two input switch. I really am enjoying the sound of this setup. BTW, my stock HFI-780 was well broken in before sending it off for the modifications.
Very nice setup! I would love to have a Yammy and/or the Behringer. Maybe you can adopt me. :veryevil: :veryevil: :veryevil:
Very nice setup! I would love to have a Yammy and/or the Behringer. Maybe you can adopt me.
Just think I have two setups almost the same.
A few thoughts on a comparison between the ALO-HFI-780J (Jena 18g wire) and my UE9. I have to say that I feel unqualified to make comparisons when things are so close but there are differences and somehow I will attempt to articulate some of them.
1. The ALO-HFI-780J would be considered slightly warmer just a bit less precise while the UE9 would be more detailed with a slightly wider soundstage.
2. It is almost like what you hear when you go from a good source to a great source in having a little bit less jitter. The difference is there but very difficult to exactly quantify.
3. I can listen to my Yamamoto HA-02 and use the Lavry DA10 headamp with the other headphone. The Lavry tends to be more detailed less warm than the Yamamoto. When I do this this almost makes them equal in sound quality and profile but still not quite the same. But a wider soundstage comes from the Yamamoto with either headphone. It is just a much better amp than the Lavry headamp with either of these headphones.
4. It is very much like the difference between the ALO Auricap Doc and the ALO Vcap Dock maybe a little more pronounced with the headphones. While both are great, the UE9 is just a little better all around than the ALO-HFI-780J while costing a significant amount more.
5. One more poor analogy. They sound like paternal twins but not identical twins.
All in all if you enjoy the sound of the UE9 and can afford it get it. Otherwise the alternative is really right there in front of us with the ALO-HFI-780J (Jenna 18g wire) or it's little brother the ALO-HFI-780V (Vampire 22g wire). They do sound very much alike except for the minor differences that I have noted. Both are very satisfying for me to listen too.
Just make sure that you have the patience to burn-in either of these because up to 500 hours of burn-in is frustration itself.
A few thoughts on a comparison between the ALO-HFI-780J (Jena 18g wire) and my UE9. I have to say that I feel unqualified to make comparisons when things are so close but there are differences and somehow I will attempt to articulate some of them.
1. The ALO-HFI-780J would be considered slightly warmer just a bit less precise while the UE9 would be more detailed with a slightly wider soundstage.
2. It is almost like what you hear when you go from a good source to a great source in having a little bit less jitter. The difference is there but very difficult to exactly quantify.
3. I can listen to my Yamamoto HA-02 and use the Lavry DA10 headamp with the other headphone. The Lavry tends to be more detailed less warm than the Yamamoto. When I do this this almost makes them equal in sound quality and profile but still not quite the same. But a wider soundstage comes from the Yamamoto with either headphone. It is just a much better amp than the Lavry headamp with either of these headphones.
4. It is very much like the difference between the ALO Auricap Doc and the ALO Vcap Dock maybe a little more pronounced with the headphones. While both are great, the UE9 is just a little better all around than the ALO-HFI-780J while costing a significant amount more.
5. One more poor analogy. They sound like paternal twins but not identical twins.
All in all if you enjoy the sound of the UE9 and can afford it get it. Otherwise the alternative is really right there in front of us with the ALO-HFI-780J (Jenna 18g wire) or it's little brother the ALO-HFI-780V (Vampire 22g wire). They do sound very much alike except for the minor differences that I have noted. Both are very satisfying for me to listen too.
Just make sure that you have the patience to burn-in either of these because up to 500 hours of burn-in is frustration itself.
Thank you, slwiser, I've been waiting for feedback like this. I will be getting my alo-780j in a day or so, but I have three questions for you.
1. Given what we know about what the 18g Jena Lab can do to the 780, are you tempted to recable the UE9 with JL cable and try to squeeze that last bit of performance out of the UE9? Ken told me that the gain from stock to Jena Lab is about the same for the 780 as well as the ue9. If it is true, that is no laughing matter as the changes is quite significant for the 780 from stock to JL 18g. I cannot imagine adding that much improvement to the already excellent ue9, that will be awesome. But then again, Ken is the only one that has a pair of alo-ue9 and very few people has listened to it to be able to comment on it.
2, I thought the burn in time with the alo-780 is alot less than the stock cable, something like 70 to 100 hours is the equivalent of 300 hours of the stock cable according the headphoneaddict. When you say 500 hours of burn in time, are you referring to the stock cable?
3, What do you think about Skylab's comment about the so so performance of the alo-780?
4. Since you have both the UE9 and the alo-780, and assuming that a person is able to afford the ue9, do you believe the difference im sq between the two is worth the cost difference?
Thank you, slwiser, I've been waiting for feedback like this. I will be getting my alo-780j in a day or so, but I have three questions for you.
1. Given what we know about what the 18g Jena Lab can do to the 780, are you tempted to recable the UE9 with JL cable and try to squeeze that last bit of perofrmance out of the UE9?
I am tempted but I have spent enough for things this year. But I really like my stock UE9s as they are.
2, I thought the burn in time with the alo-780 is alot less than the stock cable, something like 70 to 100 hours is the equivalent of 300 hours of the stock cable according the headphoneaddict. When you say 500 hours of burn in time, are you referring to the stock cable?
The 500 hours burn-in was in reference to the UE9 not the 780. The 780 was more like 200-250 on the stock unit before I sent it out to ALO.
3, What do you think about Skylab's comment about the so so performance of the alo-780?
We all have our own perspective and I have to appreciate where he is coming from. His comments are just as illegitimate as mine. We don't have to like the same things. But I hope he gives them adequate time for burn-in which I think it is clear he is, so I have no issues with his comments. Many times I disagree with others but don't necessarily state it because it is just not necessary.
Slwiser, sorry I was editing my post while you're responding. Please reread my post. Thanks.
Response of item 4: This is a very personal thing to decide whether one is worth more than the other based on money vs performance. Having a UE9, I am very satisfied with the results of my re-cabled HFI-780 with the Jenna 18g wire and the other modifications that Ken does to these headphones. For me it would not be worth the extra cost since I have the first UE9. I am enjoying both.
Sources - 5.5gen 80gb iMod Amps - Lisa III XP w/ LLP Headphones - Ultrasone Edition 9, v3 Ebony DarthBeyer w/ BlackGold, AKG K701 w/ Black Dragon, Ultrasone Proline 2500, Ultrasone Proline 650 Cables - Other - Upcoming purchases - my capacitor dock and my interconnects
Maybe you can adopt me. 
:veryevil: :veryevil: :veryevil:
Please reread my post. Thanks.
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