Plans for iPhone support?

[NewMexiCat]

Originally Posted by Britbonic

Also, have heard of other items like speakers that use the line out but work ok. Doubt that apple would have changed the pinouts for line out. More likely there is some sort of handshake that happens using other pins that enables lineout, especially since iPhone has built in speaker unlike iPod.

I think Britbonic hit the nail on the head here. It appears that if the iPhone sees that something is being done with the line-out (i.e., going to an internal amp for powered speakers), it will route the sound that way and bypass the built-in speaker. However, on passive line-out devices like ALO or Sik or PocketDock, the iPhone doesn't "see" anything happening with the line-out, so it refuses to send the signal that direction and routes the sound to the built-in speaker. It's frustrating, but I can understand why Apple set it up that way. The internals of the iPhone dock should have what ALO or any other passive line-out manufacturer needs to make this work.

[ingwe]

I wonder if the next generation iPods (to be announced next week?) will have ports that behave like the iPhone's.

I hope not.

[bhd812]

i am surprised no one has fixed this yet..esp with all the line out guys we have on these boards.

one part of me thinks everyone is waiting for someone else to find it then post the fix and another part thinks everyone is waiting for some magical fix from Apple.

either way I really want the iphone but if i can not use it with my portable setup its useless. i would be pissed if i would of bought the iphone and have a needed portable rig and still no fix yet.

Anyone hear anything else about this anywhere else?
there has to be something being worked on now..

[TheAzhrei]

I think (hope, pray) that the issue could be the fact that it's a phone. The crazy headphone jack (which sounds horrible) is also used so you can answer the phone if a call comes in while you are listening to tunes. What if you need a dock that would let you do that. Go phone->dock->adapter->mini to mini->amp->IEMs. If a call comes in you can hit the button on the adapter (as with the Shure adapter) and answer the phone. That is a lot of links in the chain, though. As usual we aren't getting help from Apple on anything.

[DLeeWebb]

I have been having this problem with the iPhone lineout not working with my ALO docks. I just stumpled upon a couple threads, including this one, that have made me realize that this isn't just my isolated problem. Can one damage the pins on the iPhone connector by simply attaching a Jumo Cyro Dock to the iPhone?

[KB]

Hey guess what I got yesterday 9/9.... mmmm iPhone.

I can not make any promises but I am going to try. Hold please.

Also whats up with the low volume on the phone and the speaker phone is also quite low, what not drag and drop in iTunes. Oh my.

other wise I love it.

ken

[NewMexiCat]

Thanks Ken!

I will try to hold patiently!!!

Originally Posted by KB

Hey guess what I got yesterday 9/9.... mmmm iPhone.

I can not make any promises but I am going to try. Hold please.

Also whats up with the low volume on the phone and the speaker phone is also quite low, what not drag and drop in iTunes. Oh my.

other wise I love it.

ken

[KB]

Okay I made an iPhone cable :eggo: , had to adjust the pin config but it works great just like any other line out dock I make. There are a few issues however. I have found that using it with the wireless on, (not in airport mode) it can be, IMO dangerous to your ears and possibly headphones. There is a very powerful EMF emission from the iPhone. This is made audible by your headphones and can be very loud. Therefore, when I use the ipod feature I turn airport mode to on and there is no issue. The iPhone will ask you to do this sometimes also and you can opt to say no and it still works but the EMF noise can be bad. The other issue is that the iPhone will not direct the audio signal on through the line out dock unless you turn the phone off, plug in the cable which automatically boots the phone back on. If you just plug the cable into the phone it will play music through the speakers only. I am currently working on seeing if I can get around this but for now I do have a LOD cable that does work. Thankfully, the boot up time is fast.

Additionally in comparison to my 6G, the iphone has a lower output than that of the 6G. I cannot discern any audible SQ difference from the iPhone and the 6g but I have to preface this statement with the fact that the output level is lower on the iphone so I have to turn the volume up when switching from the 6G to the iPhone.

I have to say it is very cool though to be able to use an external amp with my iPhone. For one thing that recessed headphone jack is very annoying. By using an external amp, you can be free to use whatever headphone you want.

I will post some picture later.

Ken

[NewMexiCat]

Awesome Ken! Where do I sign up?!

[KB]