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12-13-2005, 03:05 AM
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Micro DAC came today!
My Micro DAC arrived today after only having ordered it from HeadRoom Friday. I've been using it via USB from my computer as my new Emu404 and optical cable aren't coming until tomorrow. All I can say is holy sh*t! I've never heard such clarity and detail through a pair of headphones. What I don't understand is that the sound appears not to need any equalization. When I go portable w/ an amp I never use the line out as it always sounds better with some equalization. If it sounds this good with USB, I can't imagine how it'll sound using an optical. Can someone explain why the sound doesn't need to be equalized? It even sounded perfect with UM2's, and I can't stand the way they sound unequalized.
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12-13-2005, 05:05 AM
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Evidently, you don't have any problem with the EQ of your UM-2's, but you are simply using very unbalanced sources that need EQ to sound to your liking. Welcome to the land of good sources, and enjoy!
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12-13-2005, 05:56 AM
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Yep, welcome to the land of no-EQ! Mine is moldering on a shelf. Good components = no need to EQ!
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12-13-2005, 06:55 AM
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Can't wait for my dac...i've had enough of the pci sound card 
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12-13-2005, 07:30 AM
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Something I also noticed: I've been using a Portaphile v2^2 with the Micro DAC and there doesn't seem to be any need for crossfeed. The soundstage is so huge, it feels as if it's 360 degrees around my head(with UM2's moreso than HF-1's)- very non-fatiguing, like my ears are just feeding on the sound. Such an amazing difference then just the portable player/amp set-up. Man, I'm really getting spoiled.
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12-13-2005, 10:11 AM
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Been wanting to give this DAC a try for some time now as i keep hearing nothing but great things.Little out of my price range at the moment.
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I am also considering this DAC, but it's a bit more expensive than what I have on my budget. Well, not really, but I have to consider shipping and I also want a better pair of IEMs. Anyway, please keep us posted on any issues you may have, like insuficcient memory or something of the sort.
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12-13-2005, 05:45 PM
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Anyway, please keep us posted on any issues you may have, like insuficcient memory or something of the sort.
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That's an extremely odd sentence...
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12-13-2005, 07:02 PM
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My Micro DAC arrived today <snip> If it sounds this good with USB, I can't imagine how it'll sound using an optical. <snip>
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Can someone please explain to me why an optical digital feed would sound better than a feed from a USB interface. Is the USB feed dropping bits? Is it a speed issue? 
Thanks!
(And congrats on getting the Micro DAC - I'm ordering my Desktop Portable with DAC and HD580s today!!!!)
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12-13-2005, 07:08 PM
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Can someone please explain to me why an optical digital feed would sound better than a feed from a USB interface. Is the USB feed dropping bits? Is it a speed issue?
Thanks!
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Actually, The Jury is still out on this one.
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12-13-2005, 07:11 PM
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I thought with optical out you get a 24-bit signal instead of a 16-bit with USB. Actually, someone explained that rationale to me here on Head-Fi. I guess I'll find for myself later today when my new soundcard and optical get here.
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12-13-2005, 07:15 PM
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I thought with optical out you get a 24-bit signal instead of a 16-bit with USB.
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I'm not certain about optical capabilities, but I do know that it's still limited by the external DAC - and I think my external DAC only goes up to 16 bit anyhow ( Yep had it right). Bigger better DACs may be able to ramp up to 24 bit but my Non-OS chip doesn't do that (I think). I think my Toshiba DVD player had a pretty decent chip in it that went up to 24bit/192kbps but I'm not certain (yep i had it right). The talk is getting technical and my head is starting to spin! 
Side note- stumbled on this which explains why bypassing the op-amp output stage on my DAC-ah was a good idea- i think i'll add it to my sig!
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Do you agree with him on how it sounded before and after the mod?
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12-13-2005, 08:09 PM
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Aw heck, this forum is a dangerous place! I shouldn't have taken the red pill. 
So I'm probably wrong to assume that if I rip and encode a well recorded classical DDD CD into iTunes with the Apple Lossless encoder on a Powerbook with a Superdrive, I am getting the best possible transfer. I (depending on who you talk to) have to take jitter into account during the read process.
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12-14-2005, 01:40 AM
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So I'm probably wrong to assume that if I rip and encode a well recorded classical DDD CD into iTunes with the Apple Lossless encoder on a Powerbook with a Superdrive, I am getting the best possible transfer. I (depending on who you talk to) have to take jitter into account during the read process.
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No. The only thing you have to take into account are errors during the read process. Something like EAC can be sure to get rid of these, and even Windows Media Player has a checkbox to ensure error-checking; I don't know if iTunes does.
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