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Old 06-19-2008, 04:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Along with the sa8001, I got a great deal on a used Marantz pm7001 integrated amp. I purchased some new speaker cables, "10 white", from Blue Jean Cables and I'm in total audio heaven!!! My home system has never sounded better!

Using the sa8001 thru my LDmkIII with my hd580's is sonic bliss! My home speaker system is sonic bliss! Sometimes I can't decide wheter to listen with headphones or speakers!

And it's like rediscovering my entire cd collection!

These Marantz components are impressive indeed!!!!!!!
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Old 06-20-2008, 06:10 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Has anyone done a comparison between this Denon and Azur 740c or 840c ?
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:15 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Has anyone done a comparison between this Denon and Azur 740c or 840c ?
Check out the 840C threads... and see the comments of "daltonlanny." I think there are a few others also.

The "bottom line" is they report the SA-8001 sounds just as good as the 840C and Saturn.

I wouldn't know... haven't heard the others... but... I can assure you the sound of the SA-8001 is "pure magic." It is a "huge bargain" at its "after-market" price of around $600-700 on Audiogon.

And... its particularly great with phones that benefit from added detail and clarity of their set up - such as Senns and Denons.
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Bought mine new from American Theater for $749. They have it on sale for $729!!

Heck of a bargain for a new sa8001!!!!!
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Old 06-24-2008, 04:12 AM   #15 (permalink)
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That's great, considering that you get SACD playback as well.
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The SA8001 and the SA7001 are surely different models. Your enthusiasm about the SA8001 confirms this. I guess SA7001 KI is the equivalent of the SA8001. The stock 7k1 sounds pretty bad given its price, with higher bass hump, harsh midrange and overall incoherent presentation.
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I don't think the SA7001KI is the same as the SA8001. It doesn't make sense that they would drop the prestige of the Ken Ishiwata moniker if they were the same.

The SA7001KI has upgraded components, power supply, and HDAMS, the same DAC as the SA15-S1, and copper chassis and shielding. Does the SA8001 have all of this?
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:38 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I don't think the SA7001KI is the same as the SA8001. It doesn't make sense that they would drop the prestige of the Ken Ishiwata moniker if they were the same.

The SA7001KI has upgraded components, power supply, and HDAMS, the same DAC as the SA15-S1, and copper chassis and shielding. Does the SA8001 have all of this?
I don't know... but... it sure sounds great with my set up!

If I didn't have the M24, and the Alpha, I would not really miss them... if... I had the SA-8001. They're both phenomenal DACs... but... the SA-8001 is just that good... that it is very difficult to tell them apart.

Yes... the mids of the M24 are superb... and the bass of the Alpha is superb... but... there just isn't a huge difference between the sound of any of these units.

I don't know about the other Marantz units... but... the SA-8001 is quite simply "World-Class" - as they say! I really don't know how much better they could actually be... and... at much higher prices. At $600+ you're simply not going to find a better source... or... at twice that price... or...
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Even the headphone jack on the 8001 is the best I've ever heard -- better than many dediicated headphone amps can do.
I can use it without one of my headphone amps, and don't feel like I'm missing anything, using many different cans. Great SQ.
Anyone wanting an 8001, to use without a headphone amp, get it!
You will be happy with it for sure.
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Even the headphone jack on the 8001 is the best I've ever heard -- better than many dediicated headphone amps can do.
I can use it without one of my headphone amps, and don't feel like I'm missing anything, using many different cans. Great SQ.
Anyone wanting an 8001, to use without a headphone amp, get it!
You will be happy with it for sure.
That's how I was using it....until the Woo Audio and Modwright Transporter arrived. Now it's function is to break in headphones. It's a solid player around its price range, but not a whole lot more than that, in my humble opinion.

And yes, the headphone jack does a serviceable job on most headphones, but not nearly as well as a good, dedicated headamp.
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