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03-02-2008, 02:41 AM
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CDP as source, or transport?
I currently have a sony DVD player being used as a transport to my DAC. I am wondering if I would be better off selling the two, and getting a dedicated CDP with line-out instead. I am looking at around $200 to spend on one, but less is always good.
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03-02-2008, 06:36 AM
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That's a very limited budget for a CD player. I'd just keep what you have and save up.
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03-02-2008, 06:38 AM
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What about for $400?
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03-02-2008, 02:13 PM
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I think you can find a (used?) NAD C542 for that kind of money, which is excellent value.
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03-02-2008, 02:24 PM
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I think you can find a (used?) NAD C542 for that kind of money, which is excellent value.
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But would that be a real improvement over the DVD player feeding the Zhaolu?
I've never heard one, but with the respect that the Zhaolu gets around here...well, maybe not?
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03-02-2008, 05:57 PM
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I'm not sure, haven't heard the Zhaolu, but you're right, a real improvement comes at a price.
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03-02-2008, 08:38 PM
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For $400 you have plenty to choose from (some used)
Cambridge Azur 640c, Nad C542 (One on FS forum now), ....and Music Hall CD25.2. : p
I'm not sure how good are the transports of these CD players, but by themselves they are decent sources (from reviews).
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03-03-2008, 09:14 AM
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I quote from the site of NAD:
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Unusually at this price point, the coaxial output is buffered and isolated by a transformer from the converter itself and the output impedance has been carefully tailored to produce a precise 75 ohms impedance to ensure perfect matching. This attention to detail reduces the timing errors (jitter) that could otherwise distort the digital data stream.
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So, the coaxial output of the C542 is supposed to be quite good. This doesn't say much about the rest of the transport, but I think it's okay. I'm of the "digital is digital" type anyway, which means I don't believe much in differences between transports, although I do think less error correction can be beneficial.
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03-03-2008, 12:38 PM
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The whole point of this thread is to find out this:
Is is a better deal to get a CDP with a built in DAC, or use a cheap CDP as a transport to a DAC.
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03-03-2008, 07:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jgonino
The whole point of this thread is to find out this:
Is is a better deal to get a CDP with a built in DAC, or use a cheap CDP as a transport to a DAC.
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I think that the CDP as transport is indeed cheaper and I don't think it will be cheap to get a dedicated CDP which is clearly better than what you've got now. The only good option, as it always is I'm afraid, is to try. (meets, shops which are willing to lend you a product for a certain period of time)
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03-04-2008, 10:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jgonino
The whole point of this thread is to find out this:
Is is a better deal to get a CDP with a built in DAC, or use a cheap CDP as a transport to a DAC.
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If you spend a lot of money on a CDP, and it dies, you're up the creek w/o a paddle, unless the CDP has both digital inputs and outputs. I'm sure that's rare. I once took the route of an expensive CDP, and it died, and I took the loss on the chin.
My current strategy is to find a DAC I like [I think a DAC, like a preamp, will last a long time] and use any CD or DVD player for a transport [viewing the transport as a disposable, like brake shoes on a car]. My current transport is a Toshiba DVDP which will not longer play DVD's. I'm sure I will have an endless supply of such units, and in fact, I have three in my possession.
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DAC/about $70 on eBay - some luck there [Sony ES]
transport/$15 at a flea market
The sound:
wonderful!
Joe, if you want to get together and compare CDP's/DAC's/Transports, drop me a PM.
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03-04-2008, 10:33 PM
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I have decided to keep my current setup, but I think I am going to get a different DAC with more input and output options.
Thanks for all of the input.
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03-04-2008, 10:46 PM
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One thing you might want to consider is to look for older models on ebay that often go for ridiculously cheap.
I just got a Cambridge Audio CD4SE an it is by far the best and most musical piece of equipment I've ever heard... and I paid less than $150 for it. Frankly, I'm blown away by it
Also keep a lookout for the CD6, D500, and D500SE which have all gotten excellent reviews and go for cheap.
Just a suggestion. Good luck
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03-05-2008, 12:10 AM
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Quote:
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One thing you might want to consider is to look for older models on ebay that often go for ridiculously cheap.
I just got a Cambridge Audio CD4SE an it is by far the best and most musical piece of equipment I've ever heard... and I paid less than $150 for it. Frankly, I'm blown away by it
Also keep a lookout for the CD6, D500, and D500SE which have all gotten excellent reviews and go for cheap.
Just a suggestion. Good luck
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That seem like a good suggestion to me!
I bought a CD6 for 300$ some time ago and it have been a revelation to me!
I use to think that any cheap CD player as transport would sound the same, but that ain't the case at all.
With my Lavry DA10 i discover a world of details and got deeper bass response by changing my transport.
So i think that you should look for good transport as it is important in the process.
Also look for oldies they are still fabulous.
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03-05-2008, 05:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zillac
For $400 you have plenty to choose from (some used)
Cambridge Azur 640c, Nad C542 (One on FS forum now), ....and Music Hall CD25.2. : p
I'm not sure how good are the transports of these CD players, but by themselves they are decent sources (from reviews).
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Good options.AudioGon is your friend OP.Save up a few hundred more,and start looking around.I picked up my Solo NOS for cheap from a dealer that just wanted to clear out for new gear,same with my speakers.Saved a fortune buying 'lightly' used stuff,or NOS/firesale type.
There is a guy here locally selling a whole NAD system thats only 3 years old ,in very good condish,for 900 bucks,original MSRP was over 4k.Some people need cash bad,and have nice toys that they'll part with in a hurry for nothing or close to it.
AudioGON is a testament to this.
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