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Old 09-07-2007, 03:08 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 003 View Post
Branded doesn't mean anything... for example, sony CDrs and many others by respectable brands are complete and utter crap. You have to realize that 90% of the time, they are still just the same generic CDR's which other companies buy for real cheap and slap their name on.
That is true to some extent, but right now Taiyo Yuden is as cheap as those, check onlinep rices, and in bulk they are evne cheaper, why taking chances, then, What I ahve read and heard is that some other respectable brands get the CDs from Taiyo Yuden, Ritek, etc...as well, and rebranded them, same as Verbatim, Imation, TDK, Fuji, Philips, Ritek, and many others, the do not manufature anything...The problem is that they are not consistent with the suppliers, one day they got one from a good supplier and the next model is pure crap, as you say...but not all Sony are crap, and not all respectable brands are crap...some fo them are indeed Taiyo Yuden, Ritek, etc...rebranded
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My experience mirrors your 1st answer. Your 2nd answer only works when the original CD is also of good quality. So no scratches, fingermarks, etc.
Take your scratched CD, wash it, wipe it, rip it with EAC - it there were errors it'll complain. Otherwise you're fine. What's true is that if EAC didn't complain means it could read everything, but it doesn't mean your CD player will be able to. So, rip your CD, get a good quality (not necessarily "the best") blank, and burn it on moderate speed, not too high, not too low - your copy will work better then the original, simply because it's a brand new CD - no scratches or fingers.
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Make sure the cables connecting your CD burner to the bus are audiophile quality. Silver cables will give you a brighter burn; copper will be warmer.

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The cable brings up a good point. If a power cable affects the audio of an amp or CD player, why wouldn't the power cable or even the computer power supply affect the burning of a CD? Again, it only seems cables make a difference when you want them to. Why are the stock computer cables OK to burn a CD, but not good enough to listen to?

Also wouldn't you have to make sure that your CD Rom and CD burner is fully "burned in" before copying CDs?

Serious question folks, why is it burn in and cables are only mentioned when people don't like their new gear?
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Serious question folks, why is it burn in and cables are only mentioned when people don't like their new gear?
To get them past the 14 day return period so they can't get their money back.

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What about quality of CD-R I use? I think it has important role to keep error less for playing back music.
the device doing the copying matters too
marantz price their 1x dedicated cd copiers at $699 because the real picky audiophiles buy them to shield the copying process from EM radiation inside the computers
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marantz price their 1x dedicated cd copiers at $699 because they know audiophiles will just pay more money
I fixed that for you. If the copy is bit perfect and the checksums match, what does the EMI do to your recording?
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The cable brings up a good point. If a power cable affects the audio of an amp or CD player, why wouldn't the power cable or even the computer power supply affect the burning of a CD? Again, it only seems cables make a difference when you want them to. Why are the stock computer cables OK to burn a CD, but not good enough to listen to?
Also wouldn't you have to make sure that your CD Rom and CD burner is fully "burned in" before copying CDs?

Serious question folks, why is it burn in and cables are only mentioned when people don't like their new gear?
I will add even more, now forget about the AC side, that we always discuss here, and is more prone to voodoo belief.........

Now just think on the DC cables, that comes out of the noisy switching PSU, in a very noisy environment, and that goes to the burner, player, HD etc...they are indeed on the DC side, the side of the power that has been proved and 100% demostrated that really matters to the audio performance as is the DC what makes everything works, not AC....what a ton of BS, right?.....

One more time beleive what you want guys, but till now voodoo, and snake oil, is not studied in any university or college yet, thanks God!!!!
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I fixed that for you. If the copy is bit perfect and the checksums match, what does the EMI do to your recording?
Yeah, I wondered this. A $50 drive will rip 'perfectly'.
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