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Old 10-22-2007, 07:39 PM   #91 (permalink)
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No such DAC exists, except my Spoiler, which has a true reclocker, the Pace-Car mounted internally.

These tricks inside DAC's are simply PLL's that track the incoming clock and attempt to reduce jitter, which they do to some extent. However, they are all sensitive to jitter and introduce their own jitter. The Pace-Car is the only device that is totally insensitive to ANY incoming jitter. The difference is immediately audible in my system. I have modded many of the DAC's that claim jitter on the inputs does not matter (Benchmark, Bel Canto, Dodson 217, 218, Bremen, Electrocompaniet, Perpetual Tech., dAck!, Meridian, MSB, EAD, Theta, Audio Note, Northstar and others). Trust me, it matters.

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No offense, but this reads more like advertising copy than anything else. You are properly identified as an MOT, which is cool, but are you honestly trying to claim your DAC is the only one that actually re-clocks the data? That definitely is at odds with MANY descriptions of DAC designs that I have read about.

I am no audio engineer, but I have been reading about DAC design casually for almost 20 years. Your claim just doesn't jive with what I've read.
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:27 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Steve:

No offense, but this reads more like advertising copy than anything else. You are properly identified as an MOT, which is cool, but are you honestly trying to claim your DAC is the only one that actually re-clocks the data? That definitely is at odds with MANY descriptions of DAC designs that I have read about.

I am no audio engineer, but I have been reading about DAC design casually for almost 20 years. Your claim just doesn't jive with what I've read.

My point is that you cannot believe everything you read. Most of this copy is written by marketing types, not engineers. Sometimes even the engineers get carried away with their claims. They even believe their own claims because their systems and methods of measurement are just not good enough.

The web is full of bogus claims from people just trying to sell that maximum amount to make the most money they can in the shortest time. It's all about greed and egos.

None of these things motivate me. I am all about advancing the state of the art, so that audiophiles can have a more emotionally satisfying experience listening to music.

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Instead of apple TV as a music source You can use Ipode.Many musics are stored in this Ipode. You can carry this Ipode in anywhere.
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Instead of apple TV as a music source You can use Ipode.Many musics are stored in this Ipode. You can carry this Ipode in anywhere.
Yes... thanks for that...
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The iPod doesn't have direct digital out or allow wired/wireless playback through five computer libraries. But you are right, the iPod wins out on portability if one is happy with a dock at the expense of a bit of SQ.
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The ATV, if you own a good DAC, is a much better choice than the iPod. Plus, when I got my 160gb ATV, the 160gb iPod wasn't available.
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The ATV, if you own a good DAC, is a much better choice than the iPod. Plus, when I got my 160gb ATV, the 160gb iPod wasn't available.
That and cover flow looks great on a 19" LCD! LOL!
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the apple tv makes a great photo viewer complete with music.
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Couple of questions:

With a remote control like this one:
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...213&adid=17662

would work with an ATV? The idea would be to use it exclusively as a stationary ipod-like music source. I am a big fan of the optical out of the mac.

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Couple of questions:

With a remote control like this one:
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...213&adid=17662

would work with an ATV? The idea would be to use it exclusively as a stationary ipod-like music source. I am a big fan of the optical out of the mac.

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You would have to have OS X running for it to work (using some of the hacks I mentioned earlier), but other than that there's no reason it wouldn't work.
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