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Old 03-15-2008, 09:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Adapting a product by making drivers for a different OS is not that difficult, especially for a company that already has a few multi-platform products.
This may not be the best example, but the release of ESI's DuaFire was delayed for months and months (over a year??) while they tried to sort out the EWDM technology to make it work better with Windows. If this product was designed for OS X only, it would have been released long, long ago. Even reading through the user manual, it's easy to get the impression that integration with OS X was/is a simple matter.

If Apogee could avoid such hassles with making the Duet compatible with Windows, and still make a profit with a competitively priced product, then why would they bother with Windows support? I'm sure this factor alone accounts for their ability to bring this thing to market as a Mac-only device for such a low price.
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Old 03-15-2008, 09:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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E-MU for a long time did not have MAC/Vista drivers, but they explicitly pointed out that they will be released. The interface was designed for use with ASIO, and they released it under whatever was working well, later on providing drivers for others systems (took about a year for MAC drivers, and another year for Vista after release, during the duration of which they made the latest Beta drivers available for users who were changing platforms and wanted to maintain use of the product).

This leaves me under impression that Apogee is still short-changing things here.
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Apogee has explicitly stated that they were able to do the ensemble and duet as cheaply as they did because it's so tightly integrated with core audio. It let them worry about the audio, and let apple handle the software.
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It was also my understanding--though certainly not to any deep level--that something in Core Audio allowed Apogee to design the Duet hardware in a way that worked great in the Apple realm, but effectively made PC compatibility impossible. At least that was how the Apogee rep explained it to me when there was a lot of confusion over whether or not there would ever be more Mini-DAC FW's hitting the market last year!

I was planning on ordering the Mini-DAC FW, then they suddenly were completely unavailable. When I saw the announcement of the Duet, I called them to see if the Duet was the de facto replacement for the Mini-DAC FW....considering the Duet does more yet costs less, you see...and got the bad news that no, PC users were stuck waiting out the "re-availability" of the Mini-DAC FW, because the Duet would always and forever be a Mac-only device, end of story.
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How many different ways can it be stated? The Duet is a pro device aimed at a market segment that pretty much only uses Apple's Logic Studio. The hardware was specifically designed around the software. Bitching about its lack of support for other platforms is like complaining that your coffee machine refuses to brew beer.
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Instead of crying, work on a port for core audio.
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I'm kind of bummed the macbook air cant run this; I've been debating picking one up.
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Theres probably a way to hack cygwin with coreaudio's linux port to get this working. Or maybe in a native linux enviornment. Anyone have a duet who is willing to lend it out for science?
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How many different ways can it be stated? The Duet is a pro device aimed at a market segment that pretty much only uses Apple's Logic Studio. The hardware was specifically designed around the software. Bitching about its lack of support for other platforms is like complaining that your coffee machine refuses to brew beer.
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Instead of crying, work on a port for core audio.
Hm. So Duet is made for Apple's Logic Studio. Well that leaves us 'nice' PC users in dust.

I'll get working on finding me a programmer to put Core simulation on my Vista =] ...
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