Westone 3 - You asked for it, we listened !

[digger945]

Perhaps if we ourselves had the reputation that both precedes and trails Westone, we could better understand the delay in what is sure to be the most anticipated earphone in a long time. I will bet with assurance that the patience of the few will truly be rewarded with a sweet smile.
Scott

[wnmnkh]

Doug, is there any price change since then? (I remember it was priced at 400 bucks. )

[FlavioWolff]

check my sign ^^

[davidw89]

damn i came hear in March, no news
I come here end of June - still no news
2 month later - delay?

[NoiseGUI]

Originally Posted by davidw89

damn i came hear in March, no news
I come here end of June - still no news
2 month later - delay?

you apparently missed this latest official news in May...

[raisin]

Originally Posted by Dexter Morgan

Well, I have a few thoughts on things as they now stand. On the one hand, it's amusing to me that some people would outlaw complaining about anything that doesn't fall under the categories of war or famine. But I've already made past arguments about the inherent validity of people's feelings, their democratic expression on these boards, and how reducing these to "whining" is emotionally juvenile and arguably abusive. On the other hand, there is a difference between complaining for the sake of venting, and reasoned criticism that seeks evidence to make a point. In all my posts, I have strived for the latter.

Myself and others have criticized Westone for its misleading public statements, its lack of communication, and the unreasonable delay of its product release, all things that Westone (ala Doug) has more or less acknowledged and apologized for. I correctly predicted the W3 would be delayed much longer than was being publicly acknowledged, and I still wonder if it will ever be released - though Doug's reentry into this thread is a very encouraging sign. To confuse this with whining is to misconstrue the purpose of dissent, not to mention its value. It's very possible that the recent "noise" coming from our thread put some pressure on Westone to make a statement. Maybe it helped us get Doug back

And on that note, I'd like to switch gears a little and say WELCOME BACK, DOUG. The past being the past, I'm just glad you're with us right now. I have been a big criticizer of Westone, but the bottom line is that I do want the W3 to come out (I think most of us do), and having you around makes it feel less like vaporware. I have some advice for my fellow head-fiers: It's advantageous to us that Doug posts on this thread. He is more likely to do so if we don't run him out of here. Posts like these are not helpful:



Now, I sympathize with the anger and might even agree with the statement. I might have posted something like it a month ago. It's valid dissent that has a reasoned point to make, but its language is unreasonably inflammatory and rude. Considering the current situation, I'm not sure it's helpful. Doug has returned and is trying to make amends for the situation. And though every person will decide on their own how much forgiveness to appropriate, I suggest that as a group, we try to be civil and respectful. I am again assuming that most of us want this product to come out. It is therefore in our interest to stay as informed as possible, and the best way to do that is to keep Doug around.

Most excellent post, well reasoned...

However, it doesn't look like you've been around long enough to have danced this dance before, as others have, with UE and Shure. The time for calm and polite response to this corporate tactic is long past. We are the pre-eminent internet headphone site - we should not be ****ed with...

[p0wderh0und23]

Originally Posted by wnmnkh

Doug, is there any price change since then? (I remember it was priced at 400 bucks. )

No plans to change the price. Still set at $399.00 for the street price.

[fallow81]

Price is not bad. To be sincere. Almost all IEMs manufactures is using really old depricated drivers. How old is the same design in UM2/Shure E5 in fact are using old CI2955 and ED9689 drivers ?

I am really wondering why new design with (I hope) new drivers in Westone 3 takes so long.

Jays in Q-Jays are I think using just new driver TWFK type which is tweeter woofer hybrid = significant step forward.

Westone UM2 (which I personally like because of BEST comfort and ergonomy) sonically isnt so good for 2008 year and general people needs). Maybe years ago not for "universal consumer" was OK, but now when target consumer are using mp3-players...

Westone have just GREAT advantage in shell design - I hope You guys will not use ED9689 again because - the potential of shell design You have is just great!.

It is always some things to improve in this also - but You can use it to just beat bigger Shure if You provide sonically equal like SE420/530 product - which I hope for I am wondering how this is possible that design like in SE530 even passed the QA tests

Go Westone !!! We are counting on You
I personally hate to buy SE530 which is broken every 3 months or bad balanced Triple.fi 10 Klipsch or Sleeks are not so matured products yet.

BTW. Why Westone doesnt have good marketing ? Or maybe this is the idea to have marketing like Grado have.

Best Regards,
Waiting for Westone 3

[p0wderh0und23]

Originally Posted by fallow81

Price is not bad. To be sincere. Almost all IEMs manufactures is using really old depricated drivers. How old is the same design in UM2/Shure E5 in fact are using old CI2955 and ED9689 drivers ?

I am really wondering why new design with (I hope) new drivers in Westone 3 takes so long.

Jays in Q-Jays are I think using just new driver TWFK type which is tweeter woofer hybrid = significant step forward.

Westone UM2 (which I personally like because of BEST comfort and ergonomy) sonically isnt so good for 2008 year and general people needs). Maybe years ago not for "universal consumer" was OK, but now when target consumer are using mp3-players...

Westone have just GREAT advantage in shell design - I hope You guys will not use ED9689 again because - the potential of shell design You have is just great!.

It is always some things to improve in this also - but You can use it to just beat bigger Shure if You provide sonically equal like SE420/530 product - which I hope for I am wondering how this is possible that design like in SE530 even passed the QA tests

Go Westone !!! We are counting on You
I personally hate to buy SE530 which is broken every 3 months or bad balanced Triple.fi 10 Klipsch or Sleeks are not so matured products yet.

BTW. Why Westone doesnt have good marketing ? Or maybe this is the idea to have marketing like Grado have.

Best Regards,
Waiting for Westone 3

Actually the TWKF is not a tweeter/woofer setup. It's a dual driver design that uses the same housing. The individual armatures inside have the same freq response. They just just provide more punch since there are two sound ports.

The Westone3 is using new driver technology (can't say more than that).

One thing to remember is that the UM2 was designed as an ear monitor, not an earphone for personal listening. It just works well as one. The needs of on-stage musician and consumer are very different. The Westone3 design is based on personal listening with or without a headphone amp.

You will see a significant change in the marketing of Westone, just stay tuned for that.

I'll post info on the Westone3 as it becomes available to me.

[fallow81]

Great. Cant wait