Support Head-Fi.org by starting all of your Amazon.com shopping by clicking here.
____________________________________________________________________
Today's Featured Head-Fi Blog:  Jude's Blog
____________________________________________________________________
Please help support Head-Fi by becoming a Contributing Member  CLICK HERE

-- Contributing Members, thank you for your generous support! --
Head-Fi Is Sponsored By:
Register FAQ Blogs Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read Today's Posts Search
 

Head-Fi's Sponsors
(Premier Sponsors bolded)

Featured

2008 International
Head-Fi Meet
(Can Jam '08)
Impressions,
Reviews, Photos


Can Jam '08 graphic
courtesy of Edwood

Click on the links below
for Can Jam '08 photos,
impressions and reviews:


NightWoundsTime
lan
agile_one
wavoman
crappyjones123
Luke G
bperboy
jimaxp

 


Can Jam '08 Logo
T-Shirts For Sale


Head-Fi Blogs
and Facebook

Check out Head-Fi's new
Blogs section.

Featured Head-Fi Blogs:

Jude's "Take My Word"

 From Japan - by Sasaki

 LFF's Blog

(
Start your own Blog!)

Attention
Facebook Users



Join the official
Head-Fi.org
Facebook Group


Head-Fi's Sponsors
(Premier Sponsors bolded)

Featured


Go Back   Head-Fi: Covering Headphones, Earphones and Portable Audio > Misc.-Category Forums > DIY (Do-It-Yourself) Discussions

Meier Audio CORDA HEADSIX & The Most Recent Sponsored Threads

Celebrating 6 years of Head-Fi, Meier Audio introduces the Limited Edition HEADSIX (portable headphone amp) Head-Fi Support Sales Action




 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-16-2005, 09:27 AM   #491 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus
 
Nisbeth's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Denmark
Posts: 1,622
Default

Originally Posted by Syzygies
This sure reads to me after the warning as sassing the cop, and finding another way of pointing out that this flood of cables are for sale. I wonder how many of us are annoyed by this, but too polite to say anything?
Sorry if this sounds a little harsh, but unless you (or anyone else), are able to present proof of "organized commercial activity" on behalf of RnB, his statement reads to me that he is just getting tired of answering tons of PMs/emails asking if he can do custom cables, if this and that is for sale and so on

I remember posting pictures of an amp design a while back and recieving upwards of 20 PMs over about a week asking if I would be interested in selling the amp or doing custom builds. If my one amp prompted about 20 PMs, I can't imagine how many PMs RnB's impressive cable gallery must have generated over the past months

I have no involvement in this matter other than I have very much enjoyed RnB's contribution to this forum and unless anyone is able to conclusively prove that he is violating forum policy I think he has the right to be left alone


/U.
__________________
DIY Website

On the Couch: Teac PD-H300 -> NONOZ III DAC -> PPA/Millet Hybrid -> K501/SR325
On the Desk: iBook G4 12" -> META42 w/ AD8620 -> HD330/B&O Form2
On the Move: iPod Nano 8GB -> EX70/ER-6

In progress: M3, Zen, JLH and a new DAC (and more...)

-Feedback-

Member of Team Danish Head-Fiers
Nisbeth is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2005, 09:28 AM   #492 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus
∙ 1/2 hamster, 1/2 Turkish
∙ Blueteething
 
Edwood's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Cage
Posts: 18,669
Default

Originally Posted by Syzygies
This sure reads to me after the warning as sassing the cop, and finding another way of pointing out that this flood of cables are for sale. I wonder how many of us are annoyed by this, but too polite to say anything?

My understanding of the forum rules is that it is ok, indeed considered healthy, to discuss critically the workmanship of commercial sources. These cables look pretty on the outside, but to have any idea what they sound like, what do the solder joints look like? I've seen one post, I'd love to see more such pictures:

Well, for one, that is not the same cable as the one pictured above.

For some it may be walking a fine line, but I don't see a problem is people selling off their DIY items to help offset their costs, basically they are building for fun and to experiment and learn.

It is when the DIY'er starts branding their items and actively seeking out "customers" that it crosses the line.

BTW, that pic above is from a thread in which advice was being sought for a particular connector known for being difficult to solder.

-Ed
Edwood is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2005, 09:28 AM   #493 (permalink)
Member of the Trade:
RnB Audio
 
RnB180's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Smallville, Kansas
Posts: 4,327
Default

and regarding the sassing the cop remark by syzergy..

Moderator Rick, actually approved the pic I post PRIOR to posting. I PM'd him permission first, and told him that I would make a comment that the cables were NOT for sale with the pic as RESPECT, not sassing the Moderators decision.

If you take notice Rick has already removed his warning post. I hope that he would help me out and explain that my intent was NOT to break forum rules.
I had a comment stating I will send them to ****. I received a warning that its not acceptable to make a comment like that, I edit it and dont want to break rules. So I post the pic to pretty much show my work after permission from the moderator. Even with the "NOT FOR SALE" comment I still get someone here telling me what I posted is wrong,. its ridiculous if you were in my shoes, its a no win situation, sigh

Your post was indeed an attack on my character that was uncalled for, but not only uncalled for you made the attack on false presumptions in your own mind that had no relation to the what was really going on. Before you spout off rude and disrespectful comments along with blatantly maliscious intentions (posting a pic without explaining the true story)

do a bit of reading.

you should also note that, I refrained from posting ANY links within the forum for anything thing regarding selling my DIY cables, even after a request by a poster. look in the cables for sale forum.

I did walk on a fine line unknowingly, and didnt realize it, until it was pointed out. Since then I have made ammends and rectified any post that may have offended moderators.

regarding cable selling, the only cables Ive sold here were were extras I had a while back,

almost every cable in my gallery is a ONE time cable, no repeaters. Just recently I ordered a bunch of RA minis and star quad and Im test the waters if there is a demand for anything like that on ****. there are many people here that has sold DIY on ****. Doesnt make them a professional vendor either. I think in my case, people automatically assume I do this stuff for a living? look me up in any audio shop.. you wont see any of my stuff. IMO there are many cmoy DIYers that sell their amps on ****, it just means they have steady hands and time, should that discourage them from posting on head fi?

look for me online and you'll probably find some posts on video game forums.
Syzergy, if you have sold anything here at head fi, you would know that that you dont profit here. Its a forum full of electrical engineers, High IQ, solder happy folk and head fi diyers. LOL you are going to have a tough time profitting DIY cables on this forum. Seems most posters here with some time can always just churn out their own cable.
__________________
I asked Jesus, "How much do you love me?"
"This much", He answered. Then He opened up His arms and died.
-anonymous

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality."
-Albert Einstein

my headfi feedback
RnB180 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2005, 10:14 AM   #494 (permalink)
500+ Head-Fi'er
 
individual6891's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: East Yorkshire, England UK
Posts: 646
Default

Mweh, I dont see the point in the cardas jacks when neutrik profis and eichmann bullets are available. Sure it's silver plated, but the bullets come in silver plated versions too. To me, the internals look like a badly diecasted piece compared to other RCAs. The outside looks pretty, but the phrase you can't judge a book by it's cover works both ways round

I personally felt Syzygies's post was uncalled for too - I guess it's one of those borderline situations.
__________________
CD Rig: Modded Marantz CD5400 > Eichman Bullets/silver plated copper 4 way litz/Eichman Bullets> (PPAv1 being worked on) > Sennheiser HD650
Computer: Guzzler's USB DAC > Neutrik Profi/Starquad/Neutrik Profi > Behringer UB-802 > Bog-Standard JVC HiFi / Sennheiser 497 UnAmped
Portable: iPod 3rd-Gen 40GB > DIY 9V Mint > Sony EX-71
Current Projects: 24v Jung Super Regulator > PPAv1 > More Cabling!
individual6891 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2005, 01:42 PM   #495 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus:
Are YOU talkin' to me?
 
rickcr42's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Connecticut,US.A.
Posts: 11,907
Default

Well I guess it is time for the "head-fi gods" to come down from Mt. Rick for a spell and weigh in one this topic which is straying a bit.
This is actually a selfish act because I really do have better things to do than have to edit and delete posts later to keep this joint civil and focused on the topic at hand which is showing off !

and I mean that in a good way......


Any issues between RnB180 and myself as a representitive of Head-Fi and enforcer of the rules dammit ( ) have been resolved to the satisfaction of both parties.Since I have seen all manner of around the bend rules on selling broken,hell shattered,and some very imaginative I immediately took a sentence by the above to be such an attempt and rresponded in this forum as not only a warning to the person in question but also as a shot across the bow to others to let them know that yes,I AM watching so go easy.

Any issues I may have had were resolved to my satisfaction and I removed my initial response once the post in question was also modified.
I was in no way trying to make anyone look bad or insult a person but doing what I am paid to do (I should be so lucky ) which is monitor the forums and take action as needed and head off any potential problems before they become an issue requireing more work than i wish to perform.

Everything is cool and the pics stay becasue they also are cool.This actually is one of my favorite Head-Fi forums even though i rarely post in it.
Kinda passive moderating though be aware folks that your freindly neighborhood monsterator is watching even though you don't always see me in action,it's what we superheros do

you may now all continue with your display of "cables as art" with my blessings and i can get back up on my mountain and finish my damn coffeee
rickcr42 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2005, 02:11 PM   #496 (permalink)
500+ Head-Fi'er
 
Syzygies's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New York, NY and Concord, CA
Posts: 588
Default

Originally Posted by RnB180
sorry guys not for sale.
After Rick's warning, I read this as not getting the point. It read insolent to me, I'm sorry.

Originally Posted by Nisbeth
...his statement reads to me that he is just getting tired of answering tons of PMs/emails asking if he can do custom cables, if this and that is for sale and so on
Easier: Just don't answer. After RnB180 bought a large quantity of flex and posted argh.. my poor wallet, I PM'd him offering to help with his predicament by buying a portion. He didn't answer. A few eBay references later I was able to sort out what was going on. What surprised me about Rick's post was how long it took.

When half the posts over a period of a month look like a display of every cable ever made by someone who gives the appearance of selling cables, it looks to me like the thread has been hijacked. Why am I taking the heat for pointing this out?

Edit: Crossed posts with Rick. I'm satisfied.
Syzygies is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2005, 02:22 PM   #497 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus:
Are YOU talkin' to me?
 
rickcr42's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Connecticut,US.A.
Posts: 11,907
Default

What surprised me about Rick's post was how long it took.
probably one of my "MIA MOD" stints that happen from time to time.

I need to back away periodically just to maintain my current fragile level of sanity.This joint can beat anyone down if they take either themself or others too seriously so I choose step out and recharge as my therapy

Edit: Crossed posts with Rick. I'm satisfied.
don'tya just hate that man !
Happens to me ALL the time and I feel like an idiot when I read my response to a post that no longer makes any sense

We need some kind of damn Cross-Post-Alert !!!!!! software installed in this pub
rickcr42 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2005, 02:40 PM   #498 (permalink)
1000+ Head-Fi'er
 
devwild's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Crrrrazy
Posts: 1,143
Default

Originally Posted by Syzygies
When half the posts over a period of a month look like a display of every cable ever made by someone who gives the appearance of selling cables, it looks to me like the thread has been hijacked. Why am I taking the heat for pointing this out?
Personally, I never got this impression, I thought RnB just likes to experiment, and of course, he's going to offload what he doesn't end up using. I have a pained desire to do the same in woodworking, though I lack the tools... what I don't keep myself I would give to friends or sell below cost... same as many people including myself are doing right now on this forum with retail headphones and amps. It's all about the journey.

BTW, I love that color combo headchange, you're giving me a hankering to make a couple more cables
devwild is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2005, 05:13 PM   #499 (permalink)
Member of the Trade:
RnB Audio
 
RnB180's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Smallville, Kansas
Posts: 4,327
Default

Originally Posted by Syzygies


Easier: Just don't answer. After RnB180 bought a large quantity of flex and posted argh.. my poor wallet, I PM'd him offering to help with his predicament by buying a portion. He didn't answer. A few eBay references later I was able to sort out what was going on. What surprised me about Rick's post was how long it took.

When half the posts over a period of a month look like a display of every cable ever made by someone who gives the appearance of selling cables, it looks to me like the thread has been hijacked. Why am I taking the heat for pointing this out?
the 200 feet of flex I purchased from wire care was never received, I called them back for a refund because they were 3 weeks back order.

If you read this entire thread, and the "how to make an interconnect" thread, then you would know that I started making my first interconnect about 3 months back or so with cat 3 cable and a rat shack iron, following the directions in that thread. the I took a stab at every cable possible out their along with learning how other cables were made

Ive made 1 y-splitter in my whole entire hobby so far(originally for my PCDP and amp), the one in my gallery, and I sold that to DEV, I try to make my work looks as professional as possible, complete with customized shrinking. I guess it looks too good, to the point that someone thinks a pro seller is hi jacking a gallery thread? Even when I take steps to avoid hassling, i.e. not displaying my custom shrink, stating cables are not for sale, rejecting many requests for custom cable work, I still get heat.

Ive only made one power cable, one cool looking sub cable, one pair of shimmering cardas, one pair of bling bling cables, one pair of Litz LOK yada yada yada, as mentioned earlier, a lot of it were experimentation and having some fun with art. BTW those are ALL on my system I am using them, nothing secret or rule breaking about it



I will make it a point to be careful of posting my cables in the DIY cables gallery since some may feel DIY cable pictures do not belong in the DIY cable gallery

enough with the straying, this will be my last post defending myself, and to be honest Im a bit tired writing up long posts defending myself from posters bent on calling foul because my work HAS to be of a professional vendor.

the hobby did get expensive and I did quit making cables for a couple of weeks, but its too much fun . Ive definately slowed down though.
__________________
I asked Jesus, "How much do you love me?"
"This much", He answered. Then He opened up His arms and died.
-anonymous

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality."
-Albert Einstein

my headfi feedback
RnB180 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2005, 05:16 PM   #500 (permalink)
Head-Fi'er
 
crazyboarder's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 97
Default

i want to replace the wires on my sr60's can any one point me in the right direction i was thinking like a mini plug into a custom cable then split and into the headphones. kind of like RnB180's grados
__________________
sorry but i don't care about the spelling

super Portable: Ipod and Shure E4c
Portable: Ipod Grado SR60 and some day maybe an amp
Denon D2000
crazyboarder is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote