DIY Cable Gallery!! - Page 212 - Head-Fi: Covering Headphones, Earphones and Portable Audio

PcWork · 03-18-2007, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by skyline889

Nice braid. Any reason why you chose 30awg? I've found that anything over 26 awg for stranded becomes too contricted in sound even when multiple wires are used to enlarge overall awg. Ime I've found that less wires with a larger awg (18-24 is prefect for me) sounds significantly more refined and dynamic then double or tripled up smaller awg ones. Just imo of course though.

actually i have two simple reason:
1. because that's all i have. other i will have canare 4E6S. is much bigger and can't be use like this...
2. my triple-tribraid were done using the same wire. so my intention was to test out the different braiding methods and it's effects.
but it shounds "ok" to me.. from your comment, i will opp for getting some higher AWG cable. and try it out. and i truely believe it shall improve the sounds even more..
=)
thanks a lot.. 18-24 awg , great info... save me times to do more experiment. =P

naamanf · 03-19-2007, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by takezo

hi everyone, here's my first try with the vampire pure silver stranded 22 awg. i used 7 wires (one for grounding, three for each channel)

Just a though but I would use the same amount of strands for the ground as the signals.

naamanf · 03-19-2007, 01:50 AM

Made up a couple of dock connectors. Nothing very exciting but figured I would share. I hate soldering to those little pins. After making a couple of these is really seems like a joke to be using large gauge cable hooked up to them. But it does look cooler.

takezo · 03-19-2007, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by naamanf

Just a though but I would use the same amount of strands for the ground as the signals.

that's what i use to do initially when i started but having experimented enough tells me that the gauge of the signal wire and the ground is best suited to be the same but not necessarily the overall number of strands. i haven't had any shocking experiences yet and have yet to encounter any noise in the signal...and i doubt my ipod puts out more than a half milli-amp which should be low enough for a single 22 gauge wire to handle...

have you experienced anything unpleasant doing this in the past?

btw, i really like your blue wires...what are they and the awg?

naamanf · 03-19-2007, 03:14 AM

I think you should be good. But I think from a purist view (which I am far from) you would need the same gauge/strand count due to the fact that all current flowing would be the same on the signals as the ground.

The blue cable is just some generic 16 gauge speaker cable I had laying around. Took me a while to figure out a good method of attaching it to those little pins. I made some jumpers out of twisted magnet wire and soldered it to the speaker wire then the pins.

takezo · 03-19-2007, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by naamanf

I think you should be good. But I think from a purist view (which I am far from) you would need the same gauge/strand count due to the fact that all current flowing would be the same on the signals as the ground.

The blue cable is just some generic 16 gauge speaker cable I had laying around. Took me a while to figure out a good method of attaching it to those little pins. I made some jumpers out of twisted magnet wire and soldered it to the speaker wire then the pins.

i agree, if i were using smaller gauge like 26 or higher awg then a single wire for ground may not cut it...but for speaker cables i agree it must have same strand count as it would be very bad to pump high currents into an unbalanced signal/ground pathways..

how does the blue wire sound?

i agree, using the jumpers is the only way to go imo whenever larger gauge or a high wire count weave is being used on a dock pin...